best spear unit (low and high tier)

[Rin]

trying to find out which is the best unit to "spearwall" with (cause of a thing im doing) (not for dammage specifically) just to hold the line for other units to flank / shoot above (but if they can actualy kill they're enemies too that work)

[Dagy47]

spears specificly? those HE spears with extra armor propably (whatever they called...)

[Rin]

what race?

[Filthy Pollo 🐔]

Originally posted by Dagy47:

spears specificly? those HE spears with extra armor propably (whatever they called...)

Silverin Guard

[Mou bu]

Black Guard of Naggarond (dark elves)
Chosen (alabard) (warriors of chaos)
Fenix Guard (high elves)
Temple Guards (lizardmen)

*missread u question. Im not used to hold lines

[Ragnarjan]

Your best option is the mid tier spear units for the factions that have them,they are there to hold the line while your cav and archers do their work so any spear unit with decent melee defence and some armour will do,no need really for the expensive spear units like the black gaurd of naggarond etc...

[Aleera]

Grand Cathay's Celestial dragon guard.

[Adamsevs]

vampire coast zombies with polearms with buffs are really good at that, they can kill dragons while being cheap asf and can resurrect/heal

[Falaris]

The one best defensive infantry unit doesn't use spears.

It's the Chosen of Slaanesh with Hellscourges.

In the defensive game, they beat the socks off even Silverin Guard, which, to be fair, are really strong (although more cost effective than strong).

Aurelio mentions the chosen with Halberds of tzeentch. They are okay, but their lack of missile parry, and 14 less melee defence, really hurts in the intended role. Same with Black Guard and Executioners, except even less defence. They can kill though - bonus.

Honorary mention to Celestial Dragon Guard. With harmony and formation, they can compete with most on the list but the main reason for mentioning them is that Cathay has really good ranged options.

If you want to think outside the (wooden) box, tree kin are worth a look. They are tanky AF and has charge defence. Bladesingers, with shadow coil, has the second best melee defence (that I know of) with 67, and 20 phys res. No armor, no missile parry, and no charge defence disqualilfies them from the centerline though. (But their versatility is unsurpassed in switching between offence, defence, and AP/Base damage.).

All numbers at lowest level and at:
twwstats.com

Third honorary mention to depth guard. They are the unit I'd like to be good, but isn't. Halberds with regen and good armor/defence, though? They would be gold if they weren't half sized units.

[Adamsevs]

Originally posted by Falaris:

Depth guards are perfect how they are. Kindda glass canons against others high tiers units and absolute slaughterers against low/middle tiers enemies.
Any more buff would make them too insane especially for the Vcoast faction who have other great assets

[Filthy Pollo 🐔]

Originally posted by Rianne:

Grand Cathay's Celestial dragon guard.

That's halberd, not spear. xd

[Aleera]

Originally posted by Filthy Pollo 🐔:

Originally posted by Rianne:

Grand Cathay's Celestial dragon guard.

That's halberd, not spear. xd

>_>
Halberds are the AP variant of spears and you know it.

[Ashley]

Arrows and ballista bolts are spears too

[Zeek]

Dwarven spear mage obviously

[AurumHawke]

Originally posted by Falaris:

If you want to think outside the (wooden) box, tree kin are worth a look. They are tanky AF and has charge defence.

If you're looking at Tree Kin, take a further look at Treemen - better statline, Terror, and Charge Defense Vs All instead of just Large. While they can get Wounded and cover just 1/3 the width (get them surrounded instead - you're also shooting around them instead of over), their animations are better and they even remain braced while walking and attacking. Very effective at taking down enemy lords, heroes, and monsters too.
Drycha has a tech that gives tree spirits Poison and Deathblow, and another that gives treemen Murder of Spites. Don't forget the Oak or Willow aspects for even more armor or missile resist.
Otherwise look smaller since, except for body-blocking cavalry, Wardancers (Spears) perform better than Tree Kin.