Ass Ladders NEED TO BE CHANGED

[Archon]

I think most people agree that ass ladders are ridiculous and need to be changed. There's no reason that everyone should automatically have ladders. Just make it so you need to build them like any siege equipment. I don't care how hard it is CA make it happen.

[Fryskar]

If you remove the fatigue debuff and the pathfinding super priority, its a deal i'd take.
Currently using ladders is at best annyoing as attacker, unless you're fine with all your units attempting to use ladders if you don't send them one by one.

As is, the straight to exhausted debuff from climbing a ladder and the pathfinding part means i barly ever use ladders.

[Aleera]

I find them less ridiculous then ammo fully regenerating after every battle.

Don't like the free ladders, find a mod or code it for yourself that removes the ladder abilitiy.

[dulany67]

Remove ass ladders, lower siege equip build times, remove fatigue penalties, increase tower firing arcs to 180 degrees.

[Amereth]

Personally i think they need to add some form of population/builders.

They would create siege weapons and of course ladders, the distance between where you want your sieges weapon built and the closest settlement would determine how long it take to build and of course the amount of builder you have at your disposal would have an impact on that too.


The amount of builders could be determined by existing resources in game like gold, silver, wood.


Settlements need better walls and less towers, but they need towers that actually do something, it is warhammer, why am i stuck with wood towers shooting basic arrows... Bretonnia is so good at making towers that everyone is copying them.

[Øv]

just make it so you can't youse latters when you have walls opgradet

[aeON]

The AI still can't find the center of the map in a siege (like your dad with your mom's lady parts) and you want them to not have automatic ladders? The delusion.

[j.yellow28]

i wish they brought back old ladders where u had to build em and the unit carried them all the way to the wall. Like in Rome, atilla, med2 exetra. Would be better so u dont have mystical ladders apear out of there ass.

[Ashley]

Yes cause you're really going to sit around when giant monsters that can break gates are part of most rosters

Or the fact if you're going to wait you might as well just build siege tower things very fun to sit around for turns making ladders when after my units climb them they'll just be exhausted and fight worse who doesn't love that

And sitting around for end turn is so fun and engaging

[Zeek]

Originally posted by aeON:

The AI still can't find the center of the map in a siege (like your dad with your mom's lady parts) and you want them to not have automatic ladders? The delusion.

Maybe you should help out your fellow AI brethren

[j.yellow28]

Originally posted by Ashley:

Yes cause you're really going to sit around when giant monsters that can break gates are part of most rosters

Or the fact if you're going to wait you might as well just build siege tower things very fun to sit around for turns making ladders when after my units climb them they'll just be exhausted and fight worse who doesn't love that

And sitting around for end turn is so fun and engaging

if u have a monster or siege attacker u dont need either but like empier u have only infentry and no siege attacker in instances i think u should be able to build ladders instead of just haveing them apear magicly at the walls. I mean u take 1 turn to make em. would be faster then siege towers but opffer no protection?

[Chiller]

Originally posted by Archon:

There's no reason that everyone should automatically have ladders.

Only Light Troops should have ladders (e.g. witch elves, rangers, marauders etc.) thus making those units useful in any army setup. The Heavy Troops (such as greatswords, chosen, graveguard) should only climb siege towers.
A special icon should be placed in every unit indicating if they can climb ladders.

[aeON]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by aeON:

The AI still can't find the center of the map in a siege (like your dad with your mom's lady parts) and you want them to not have automatic ladders? The delusion.

Maybe you should help out your fellow AI brethren

Reek, you can't even figure out simple numbers. At least OP shows some form of thinking.

[Ashardalon]

want to see the people claiming the exhaustion is enough penalty climb a ladder in full armor
and slowing down the campaign map walking over towns by a turn to build ladders can only do good

[Aleera]

Originally posted by Ashardalon:

want to see the people claiming the exhaustion is enough penalty climb a ladder in full armor
and slowing down the campaign map walking over towns by a turn to build ladders can only do good

That's exactly the reason why every flipping legendary lord gained the siege attacker trait. So people that didn't have cannons or monsters could just start a siege instantly.

Because waiting a turn for siege equipment before you can start has never been fun.

[Ashardalon]

yea that trait would need to be removed
why play grand strategy if waiting a single turn is too much to ask
maybe subway surfers more what your looking for
no planning or thinking needed for that