Fear is hands down the dumbest garbage in this game

[Holy Athena]

Having your ENTIRE army route instantly because the enemy lord, and 2 other units have fear is the most atrociously inept garbage of a mechanic I've ever experienced in a game.

how is anyone defending that this ♥♥♥♥ makes sense?

#learngamebalance

[[CT] Forced Jaketh]

Do you mean Terror? Fear is a pretty minor morale buff when on higher diffs.

Terror is the one that makes your army rout early

[Grinch]

"entire army by turn 30 has fear"

Literally every Undead unit has fear by default.

[Enelith]

You need to read abilities to understand what it does. Fear is a morale debuff.

If you were talking about Terror, here's a little explanation for you :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4WpQ9Ga6os

Edit :
And the moral / leadership one from TWWH2, which still applies anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvSfWUcxYYM

[SidewalkOfPain]

I remain perpetually amazed that people still play the vanilla game.

#LearnToMod

[Filthy Pollo 🐔]

Publicado originalmente por Holy Athena:

Having your ENTIRE army route instantly because the enemy lord, and 2 other units have fear is the most atrociously inept garbage of a mechanic I've ever experienced in a game.

how is anyone defending that this ♥♥♥♥ makes sense?

#learngamebalance

Sounds like the correct hashtag is #skillissue

[franz]

Publicado originalmente por Holy Athena:

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Empire fighting von Carstein,

Time to get good son . This is one of the ez matchups in the game. There are 254 more OP factions in the game then there is VC last .

He probably had lots of dread incarnate + the lord first skill next time check your current leadership before .

[Aleera]

OP, you do realize that fear is a -8 leadership aura. That does not stack with itself.

Does not matter if Vlad is beating your soldiers, a zombie unit, a terrorgheist, or all 3 combined. Fear will only inflict -8 leadership.

Encourage, the aura your lord and heroes have offsets this. The priest hero and lord has Benediction. Which gives them a +8 leadership bonus to their aura.

Basic Empire melee soldiers have 60 leadership. While halberdiers have 70. Greatswords have 75.

Routing requires 5 consecutive seconds of negative morale. Terror can only happen at 13 leadership and confers immunity to further terror for 30 or 60 seconds.

So your soldiers did infact not instantly route.

[Ashardalon]

its really his own lord dying that caused the problems
the fear was just a minor contributor

[Triple G]

Imho fear and terror have basically no impact at all. It doesn´t change much if units have it or not. Imho it should have much more impact. But somehow most units fight to death anyways - with few exceptions early game...

[cernodan]

>be anime avatar
>try something else besides whatever garbage visual novel you people play
>some mechanic offers mild inconvenience
>throw a temper tantrum
>make online post, flaming said mechanic and demanding it's removal, because you can't be an anime avatar without being self-centered and no skill
>throw a hashtag for good measure, just to make the chronically online package complete
>lol, lmao even, git gud

[Faptor]

Publicado originalmente por cernodan:

>be anime avatar
>try something else besides whatever garbage visual novel you people play
>some mechanic offers mild inconvenience
>throw a temper tantrum
>make online post, flaming said mechanic and demanding it's removal, because you can't be an anime avatar without being self-centered and no skill
>throw a hashtag for good measure, just to make the chronically online package complete
>lol, lmao even, git gud

>trying to use 4chan greentext outside of 4chan
#CringeEl-oh-El

[cernodan]

Publicado originalmente por Faptor:

Publicado originalmente por cernodan:

>be anime avatar
>try something else besides whatever garbage visual novel you people play
>some mechanic offers mild inconvenience
>throw a temper tantrum
>make online post, flaming said mechanic and demanding it's removal, because you can't be an anime avatar without being self-centered and no skill
>throw a hashtag for good measure, just to make the chronically online package complete
>lol, lmao even, git gud

>trying to use 4chan greentext outside of 4chan
#CringeEl-oh-El

I respect your bravery.
Imagine being a furry, you know, thinking you're some animal, commissioning OC art, dressing up in mascot gear, attending cons, and calling other people cringe.
You have balls, madam, and I respect you for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp76cHN2FDU

[Falaris]

Cause Fear can be tremendously powerful, especially when combined with a hero or two with -enemy leadership. At that stage, black knight lancers charging into the rear of a unit in combat will also inflict leadership penalties for attacked in the rear, damage shock, etc., and is almost guaranteed to cause the target to flee.

Stacking leadership penalties like that can be tremendously effective.

But if you would have comfortably won the battle anyway, fear isn't going to be decisive unless you are very good at using it.

But that's not what the OP seems to describe, where his entire army runs in fear at the sight of a few skeletons.

I kind of assume the OP is kind of aware of this but had an annoying loss and rage posted here. This doesn't tend to lead to nuanced or reasonable posts. I wouldn't put too much weight to it, or for that matter, lambast him. Or her, given it's 'Athena'.

[Isaac]

fear does not stack, it is a one time debuff. your units route because of other things, fear just makes it easier for them to route

[CrUsHeR]

Fear does not stack, though some other leadership effects do.

Example Dread Incarnate, Nurgle's Foul Stink and such.

IIRC, in Warhammer 2 there was this meme army with 19 Bray-Shamans all having Nurgle's Stink which instantly routs every army on battle start.