CHANGELING BUG

[Joshchaos]

SO.. when recruiting in a province and any of the settlement cults get discovered while recruiting any turn after that your local recruitment will become bugged and you cant local recruit for the rest of the game.

[CA_Nova]

Hi there, is the settlement besieged when this happens in your playthrough? Best, CA_Nova

[Joshchaos]

Hi! and thank you for the reply!

No, none of the settlements were under siege. One of my cults had become discovered due to me constructing the building that lets you spawn in an army for yourself after 10 turns increasing the discover ability by +100.
The following turn when the cult got discovered i can no longer recruit locally from that point for the rest of the game no matter where i go or what settlement im in / cult zone.

Also another bug i encountered is for "Blue scribes" and "Akhold Hellbrass" where playing as Changeling.
If you construct the Quest buildings ""Before"" you complete the quests or get the quests.. it will end up breaking the quest. (The quests to unlock blue scribes/Akhold Hellbrass)
Either (A) It will never spawn the quest to build the buildings.
(B) not register even when you already did build the buildings
(C) not spawn in the Heros even after achieving the quests.

and it all seems due to building the t4 building for hellbrass before you get the quest to build it.
Or the T5 building for blue scribes that you recruit lords of change from.

Either or if you build the buildings before you trigger the quest it just breaks it completely and for the rest of the game at that point you can not unlock them even if you completed the other stages of the quests.

The only work-around for the Heros is you must "NOT" build the t4 chapterhouse or the T5 lords of change buildings until you have already got the quests and are in the process of achieving them.

Thanks again CA/GW I know you guys and gals are working very hard and appreciate the help!

[CA_Nova]

Thanks - I've logged these. I may need to come back to ask you to provide a save file to the CA Forums - I'll let you know shortly if I do. Best, CA_Nova

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Joshchaos:

Also another bug i encountered is for "Blue scribes" and "Akhold Hellbrass" where playing as Changeling.
If you construct the Quest buildings ""Before"" you complete the quests or get the quests.. it will end up breaking the quest. (The quests to unlock blue scribes/Akhold Hellbrass)
Either (A) It will never spawn the quest to build the buildings.
(B) not register even when you already did build the buildings
(C) not spawn in the Heros even after achieving the quests.

IIRC - the quest can still be completed by building a new cultist building in another settlement.

BTW the same bug is true for the quest "upgrade any settlement building to Tier 5", very notable for Skaven when you already have a T5 settlement before receiving the quest.

[CA_Nova]

Hey, we've had a bit more of a dig into this one - when a cult has been discovered the AI has the choice to remove the cult - removing the cult would mean you can't recruit locally because they are no longer there. Best, CA_Nova

[Joshchaos]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Originally posted by Joshchaos:

Also another bug i encountered is for "Blue scribes" and "Akhold Hellbrass" where playing as Changeling.
If you construct the Quest buildings ""Before"" you complete the quests or get the quests.. it will end up breaking the quest. (The quests to unlock blue scribes/Akhold Hellbrass)
Either (A) It will never spawn the quest to build the buildings.
(B) not register even when you already did build the buildings
(C) not spawn in the Heros even after achieving the quests.

IIRC - the quest can still be completed by building a new cultist building in another settlement.

BTW the same bug is true for the quest "upgrade any settlement building to Tier 5", very notable for Skaven when you already have a T5 settlement before receiving the quest.

no making a new building and fully upgrading it in another cult does NOT work. I know what your talking about but it is not always true and for this bug it does not work. I've tested thoroughly before posting.

[Joshchaos]

Originally posted by CA_Nova:

Hey, we've had a bit more of a dig into this one - when a cult has been discovered the AI has the choice to remove the cult - removing the cult would mean you can't recruit locally because they are no longer there. Best, CA_Nova

Thanks for reaching out!

Right, if everything was working properly that is the result...HOWEVER.. what happens is I cant recruit locally ANYWHERE in ANY cult i have for the rest of the game once this is bug becomes triggered AND building the required buildings in another cult DOES NOT fix the issue.

[CA_Nova]

Hey, thanks for the extra info. In that case we're going to need to dig into this further for you - please provide a save file over at the CA Forums: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/13-report-a-warhammer-iii-bug Best, CA_Nova

[Joshchaos]

Originally posted by CA_Nova:

Hey, thanks for the extra info. In that case we're going to need to dig into this further for you - please provide a save file over at the CA Forums: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/13-report-a-warhammer-iii-bug Best, CA_Nova

Ok, Awesome! Thanks Nova i really appreciate the help and everything! its really nice to know this is getting looked into!

[Mistress]

Hi I seem to be having the same issue on my current save. Is there a work around?
I think its happened after a settlement has been taken over by another faction, though not every time.

[worm]

This bug is still in the game with the changling's faction :(

[Holy Fool Sehrael]

Originally posted by XL BIG GULP:

This bug is still in the game with the changling's faction :(

When it happened to me and I still had a cult with recruitment buildings and couldn't recruit, dismantling all recruitment buildings and rebuilding it helped. This process sucks, naturally, and I don't know if that consistently fixes it, but if it's early in the game you might as well try that as at that time it probably won't hurt as much ^^

[Jungchu]

Having recently completed a Trickster cult campaign. I had the very same issues.
I had the buildings completed for both the Blue Scribes and Helbrass completed already but had to build them again just to get the heroes.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Jungchu:

Having recently completed a Trickster cult campaign. I had the very same issues.
I had the buildings completed for both the Blue Scribes and Helbrass completed already but had to build them again just to get the heroes.

Shouldn't be happening.

All quests requiring to build something will do an instant check wether you already have the building or not (including higher tier versions).

So you get the quest, and it gets instantly completed when acknowledging it.

Loading into a battle and back to the campaign map will also do the check again.



Except the "any settlement building T5" quest, this only triggers from the main building and has to be actually constructed. So this doesn't count when you cheated it with the Primary command from the console cheat mod. Or already have a T5 settlement by other means (Skaven).

Edit: Ah yeah and the Chaos Dwarf quest for Gordhuz only triggers after building the hobgoblin barracks yourself.

[Big Moustache]

This bug is already in game 2. 1 example is building a t3 temple for Tyrion when you already got it build