demon prince buff when

[MagnusCerebrum]

Vanilla customization is lame and Godslayer Overhaul, while having amazing drip, is overpowered

[vetian]

well i was hoping more parts in mirrors of madness would come with each dlc, that would work since they are awesome.

[fmalfeas]

Originally posted by vetian:

well i was hoping more parts in mirrors of madness would come with each dlc, that would work since they are awesome.

You get a pile of Tzeentch parts for doing those special battle games (that aren't part of the campaign). Do well enough to get the first two 'medals' in each and you unlock all the parts.

Of course, you still have to manage to get enough favor to use them.

[Vinnie DAngelo]

What's the best way to buildup his provinces? anyone... Like do you all recommend dedicating a whole province to a single god or different gods in every city?

[fmalfeas]

Originally posted by Vinnie DAngelo:

What's the best way to buildup his provinces? anyone... Like do you all recommend dedicating a whole province to a single god or different gods in every city?:WH3_horror_Blegh:

I'm pretty sure you are best served by focused provinces. The first one seems to be a question of if you want fast nurgle growth, or tzeentch blue horrors, because Malus almost always comes at you right around the time you secure the province.

[jonoliveira12]

DP is the perfect example of hy Creat-A-Lord mechanics are bad, when compared to expertly crafted LLs with their own traits and items, and campaign mechanics.

DP needs no buffs, he is what he is, a novelty act. Good enough.

[Zeek]

Yup he's remarkedly bad and it really shows compared to... basically everyone else.

I recently tried them in IE twice and both times I quit out of frustration.

Body part mechanics aren't impactful, economy is non-existant, you don't get technology benefits, buildings take waaaaay to long to construct (and expensive af), you don't get access to decent daemon units until like mid game resulting in you using unbuffed trash units for a really long time.

I had him lose to a freaking generic lord of change in a melee fight, using a mix of khorne and tzeentch body parts. That's when I ended the campaign.

[BigRockWall]

Originally posted by Vinnie DAngelo:

What's the best way to buildup his provinces? anyone... Like do you all recommend dedicating a whole province to a single god or different gods in every city?:WH3_horror_Blegh:

Nurgle or Khorne in the main settlement (10 of them lets you reduce recruitment times on their respective units), and Slaanesh everywhere else. Tzeentch in 1 minor for early horrors. Slaanesh cities give the most money, and Slaanesh corruption adds another 10% or so.

I specify nurgle or khorne main settlements because nurgle grinders and khorne chaos warriors into minos is pretty much a right click auto win stack.

Edit - and Undivided dedication obviously so you can get access to both minos and nurgle grinders.

[Cyiel]

They should rework the old pieces by using what they have done from the Mirror of Change ones with some cool stuffs (like Cataclysm spells). They also need to make dedicated paths more compelling. Some units should be only accessible if you go mono-god, etc For now, it's a great template but it lacks polish (like a lot of things : hello Changeling !)

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Cyiel:

They should rework the old pieces by using what they have done from the Mirror of Change ones with some cool stuffs (like Cataclysm spells). They also need to make dedicated paths more compelling. Some units should be only accessible if you go mono-god, etc For now, it's a great template but it lacks polish (like a lot of things : hello Changeling !)

Changeling is actually a great LL with a fun campaign.

[fmalfeas]

The demon prince's big issue in my eyes is that he's a HUGE target, and unlike *every other lord* he has a horrible time building up strong missile resist. And his likely early enemies include Dark Elves and Kislev, who will both turn him into a pincushion. Oh, and which Dark Elves? MALUS. Freaking Malus. WIthout going Tzeentch, you have basically no ranged ability, and an early enemy is one of the lords on the 'do not melee' list.

[Reaver79]

You can melee Malus, just dont use high hp, low count units/SE's as his aoe is high dmg to a single target in every unit hit by it..

[fmalfeas]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

You can melee Malus, just dont use high hp, low count units/SE's as his aoe is high dmg to a single target in every unit hit by it..

Once he gets his warpsword of khaine, meleeing him is just extending the lifespan of Tzarkan form.

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

DP is the perfect example of hy Creat-A-Lord mechanics are bad, when compared to expertly crafted LLs with their own traits and items, and campaign mechanics.

DP needs no buffs, he is what he is, a novelty act. Good enough.

I think a create a lord mechanic done right would be bossier than bee knees.

But I think it would be best served as a fixed starting capital that is a blank slate along with a comprehensive system to create any kind of LL you can dream of using the pieces and parts of existing LLS in the sense of mechanics and skills.

It could be done, and if done right, would be amazing AF.

[Cryten]

I think part of it is that demons are just really glass canon. They can do impressive damage but fall over at the first sign of good ranged fire or tanky units. And the psuedo tech he gets only really patches up a few small holes in nurgle and khorne. It is nothing compared to a good crafted tech tree.

But all the demon factions got crap tech tree's that do not enhance their troops well.

The only success I had with him was spamming khorne warriors of chaos with blue and purple demons. But unfortunately it is very very expensive.

[Cazz]

more daemon parts would be fantastic, especially for multiplayer