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edward_rahl Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:41pm
Game randomly crashes my PC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor
32 GB RAM
Windows 10
570 GB free space

As you can see my pc is well above both the required and the recommended requirements for playing this game. And YET this game crashes it all the time. Not the game, the whole windows crashes and the pc restarts. It does this on any setting. It does this randomly - sometimes when I press to start a battle, sometimes after a battle, sometimes when i press end turn, sometimes after end turn. Oh yeah and every four or five crashes it corrupts the save file (i like to play on legendary). I don't know if it creates a crash file, not sure when it would have the chance to do so considering. I tried everything I found online, verified steam installation, not used mods, reinstalled fresh, reinstall windows fresh, latest drivers, no overclocking, i even reinstalled window on a fresh partition and only installed this game .. nothing still crashes. Anyone got any ideas?
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Originally posted by Jukelo:
Originally posted by edward_rahl:
hmm, downloaded an app for heat monitoring, 20 min in game it said 90 C and although it didn't crash (yet) i suspect that may be the ultimate cause, damn not sure what to do about it, it crashed on lowest settings too in the past

90c is system shutdown territory, depending on the exact CPU. This is your most likely culprit. Do some general maintenance to remove dust, replace dried thermal paste, rethink the airflow inside the case etc...

Note that lower graphics settings aren't going to appreciably lower the CPU temp. In fact lower settings are likely to put *more* strain on the CPU by increasing the number of draw calls since the GPU is going to try and generate more frames for the same effort unless the frame rate is artificially limited by something like VSync.

At any rate, adjusting settings to keep temperatures in check is not a good solution: your cooling should be good enough to handle every component of your system running at 100%. All your components ought to come, out of the box, with sufficient cooling to do that so you should give the computer a good dusting.
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Alan Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by edward_rahl:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor
32 GB RAM
Windows 10
570 GB free space

As you can see my pc is well above both the required and the recommended requirements for playing this game. And YET this game crashes it all the time. Not the game, the whole windows crashes and the pc restarts. It does this on any setting. It does this randomly - sometimes when I press to start a battle, sometimes after a battle, sometimes when i press end turn, sometimes after end turn. Oh yeah and every four or five crashes it corrupts the save file (i like to play on legendary). I don't know if it creates a crash file, not sure when it would have the chance to do so considering. I tried everything I found online, verified steam installation, not used mods, reinstalled fresh, reinstall windows fresh, latest drivers, no overclocking, i even reinstalled window on a fresh partition and only installed this game .. nothing still crashes. Anyone got any ideas?

Run Windows Memory Diagnostic.
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Invisible Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:47pm 
Heat!? Do you monitor your sensors on GPU/CPU and Motherboard? Warhammer is a strain even on cutting edge Systems. I deliberatly turned down graphic to get acceptable temperatures. RTX 4070 GAMING OC Intel Core i9-12900K
Last edited by Invisible; Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:47pm
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edward_rahl Nov 25, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by Alan:
Originally posted by edward_rahl:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor
32 GB RAM
Windows 10
570 GB free space

As you can see my pc is well above both the required and the recommended requirements for playing this game. And YET this game crashes it all the time. Not the game, the whole windows crashes and the pc restarts. It does this on any setting. It does this randomly - sometimes when I press to start a battle, sometimes after a battle, sometimes when i press end turn, sometimes after end turn. Oh yeah and every four or five crashes it corrupts the save file (i like to play on legendary). I don't know if it creates a crash file, not sure when it would have the chance to do so considering. I tried everything I found online, verified steam installation, not used mods, reinstalled fresh, reinstall windows fresh, latest drivers, no overclocking, i even reinstalled window on a fresh partition and only installed this game .. nothing still crashes. Anyone got any ideas?

Run Windows Memory Diagnostic.
I did. No problems detected ...
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Alan Nov 25, 2023 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by edward_rahl:
Originally posted by Alan:

Run Windows Memory Diagnostic.
I did. No problems detected ...

That's good, but it was also my best guess. When a computer randomly crashes in a way that isn't reproducible, but is always during high workloads (like gaming), bad memory is the low hanging fruit (in my experience).

Nevertheless, from what you've described, it is still probably hardware.
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Sarumoon Nov 25, 2023 @ 4:07pm 
Other games work fine? Just this game crashing?
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Unlucky Eleven Nov 25, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
the same problem, fps 60-90, there is a battle and the game stops that you have to restart the computer, either a system error with you and me, or the engine ♥♥♥♥ and causes a crash in the game.
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edward_rahl Nov 25, 2023 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by Invisible:
Heat!? Do you monitor your sensors on GPU/CPU and Motherboard? Warhammer is a strain even on cutting edge Systems. I deliberatly turned down graphic to get acceptable temperatures. RTX 4070 GAMING OC Intel Core i9-12900K
hmm, downloaded an app for heat monitoring, 20 min in game it said 90 C and although it didn't crash (yet) i suspect that may be the ultimate cause, damn not sure what to do about it, it crashed on lowest settings too in the past
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edward_rahl Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Байтер за 100$:
the same problem, fps 60-90, there is a battle and the game stops that you have to restart the computer, either a system error with you and me, or the engine ♥♥♥♥ and causes a crash in the game.
sorry to hear this but not the same problem, my game never stops or freezes, the pc restarts itself in the middle of the game, no pause no stop no warning
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edward_rahl Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Sarumoon:
Other games work fine? Just this game crashing?
AC Valhalla, BG 3, Pathfinder WotR, Battlefleet Gothic 2, far cry 5, rogue trader they all work fine,
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Jukelo Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by edward_rahl:
hmm, downloaded an app for heat monitoring, 20 min in game it said 90 C and although it didn't crash (yet) i suspect that may be the ultimate cause, damn not sure what to do about it, it crashed on lowest settings too in the past

90c is system shutdown territory, depending on the exact CPU. This is your most likely culprit. Do some general maintenance to remove dust, replace dried thermal paste, rethink the airflow inside the case etc...

Note that lower graphics settings aren't going to appreciably lower the CPU temp. In fact lower settings are likely to put *more* strain on the CPU by increasing the number of draw calls since the GPU is going to try and generate more frames for the same effort unless the frame rate is artificially limited by something like VSync.

At any rate, adjusting settings to keep temperatures in check is not a good solution: your cooling should be good enough to handle every component of your system running at 100%. All your components ought to come, out of the box, with sufficient cooling to do that so you should give the computer a good dusting.
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