Does throt make better rattling gunners than ikkit?

[H3avy]

Mostly due to vat upgrades, can give them stuff like fear and terror on range attacks. Granted, this means that upgrades are not universal which is the trade off.

[Dagy47]

idk i still think the ikit special techs are better for them

[H3avy]

I think the trade off is damage vs durability

[Vrooktar]

Its always kind of a mixed bag with Throt.
He also has better Eshin units than clan Eshin......depending on the used metric.
I guess it comes down to the fact which properties are the most important to you.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Hmm?

Fear and Terror only effects stuff in melee range (not ranged attacks) so wouldn't both effects do very little for rattling gunners? I guess it could potentially be useful for scaring away units trying to jump them, perhaps it might also make some units flee or break before they manage to tie them down in melee.

Don't think the flesh labs have anything that effect ranged damage. Other then perhaps perfect vigor. So i think Ikit still claims the win on this one, that said Thrott can likely make some interesting combos (He does have some Augment that reduces melee but makes a unit hardier. So you can likely get rather tanky rattling gunners with him).

[Valthejean]

When looking at just ratling guns, absolutely nothing compares to Ikit giving them unlimited ammo.

With that out of the way, Throt is definitely better at building other types of troops. But when it comes to weapons teams, Ikit has no competition.

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Throt's a ♥♥♥♥ compared to Ikit

[Aleera]

Thrott can have some funny upgrades for ratling gunners. But it's almost exclusively defensive in nature.

Having perfect vigour + regen is decent.
Being able to ressurect dead models once per battle is quite good.
20% physical resist is never a bad thing.
15% movespeed + strider is handy.
15% spell resist + 20 armour is also quite nice.

Though the best on Skrolk can give ranged units, is vanguard.

In the end, you want your ranged unit's to be better at dealing damage first and foremost. Moulder doesn't help their offensive other then perfect vigour.

Ikitt on the other hand will without fail give all ratling gunners endless ammo. 15% faster fire rate and 12% missile strength. The endless ammo also means your ratling gunners will always count for full power on the balance of power.

[shoobers]

Perfect vigor on ANY ranged unit is a powerful offensive tool. How the frick is that defensive?

[CrUsHeR]

IIRC - Fear is a leadership-reducing aura which does not stack, while Terror only procs from melee attacks (and includes the Fear effect)

[Aleera]

Originally posted by shoobers:

Perfect vigor on ANY ranged unit is a powerful offensive tool. How the frick is that defensive?

Originally posted by Rianne:

Moulder doesn't help their offensive other then perfect vigour.

Bolded to make it more clearer that I did state that was the only offensive upgrade Thrott offers for ranged.

[Aleera]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

IIRC - Fear is a leadership-reducing aura which does not stack, while Terror only procs from melee attacks (and includes the Fear effect)

I thought terror was a aura as well.

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by Vrooktar:

Its always kind of a mixed bag with Throt.
He also has better Eshin units than clan Eshin......depending on the used metric.

This sounds interesting. Can you expound?

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Rianne:

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

IIRC - Fear is a leadership-reducing aura which does not stack, while Terror only procs from melee attacks (and includes the Fear effect)

I thought terror was a aura as well.

The tooltips say:


"Causes Terror - This unit can cause terror, making its melee target rout for a short time. Units that cause terror are immune to terror and fear themselves."

"Causes Fear - This unit frightens all enemy units, reducing their leadership when nearby.
It is also immune to fear. Fear penalties do not stack."

[SpeaksTooFast]

I think the Throt's upgrades are good if you are playing him but Ikit's are stronger overall. Just like my opinion.