Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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how the ♥♥♥♥ do i kill Vlad Von Carstein when he is with Isabela
i killed the whole army but them two and they soloed my 20 stack. THE ♥♥♥♥!
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SomeGuy1 Nov 6, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
so, for actual battle tactics:
typical melee infantry units can't get enough of their models into melee with vlad to overcome his regeneration, and will block your own ranged units' line of sight. Ideally you kill vlad from a distance, but when that isn't an option you want to keep your high model count (60-100) melee units away from him and fight him with low model count monstrous infantry (24 or fewer), or single entities.

beyond that, it sort of depends on what units you have available. What faction were you playing as?
Holeypaladin Nov 6, 2023 @ 9:53pm 
Playing as Empire, I'm guessing?

Vlad and Isabella are essentially invincible unless you have a ton of handgunners. If you don't have handgunners yet, the only way to beat them is to use auto-resolve. Absolutely broken legendary lord-hero pair with their insane armor, damage resistance, and regeneration.

Also, when you do beat Vlad, he respawns the very next turn. Yes, the very next turn.
Last edited by Holeypaladin; Nov 6, 2023 @ 9:55pm
dot Nov 6, 2023 @ 9:59pm 
Adding to the first post:

- Order of priority kill Isabela and the other heroes then kill Vlad. Isabella and any vampire lore hero (vampires and necromancers) can heal, Vlad is tough better fighter and more regenerating as it is when he gets his sword and then he has a ring a little bit latter that gives him a usable boon of tons of ward save, remove the easy ones first, keep Vlad busy meanwhile with some expendable units or someone that can take a beating, anyway it wont take you long to down the vampire heroes if you focus on them.
- Have something that deals fire damage, it halves any regen.
- Vampires have quite some armor, have it in mind and attack them with that. Guns are the easy go to to dealing tons of damage and armor penetrating one.
- Vlad is a on foot human size/mass unit, he doesn`t get a mount ever. Large units can play ping pong with him throwing him around, from the charge of a humble horse. Early arch-nemesis of Vlad from his neighbours are the malevolant trees, they can 1v1 him with just right clicking him... and then pretty much any large unit with big enough charge+damage with a lot of micro, just keep charging don`t let him throw a single blow at you.

It is not a hard enemy, it`s a gimmic one. When you read the equipments and on combat the boons, you figure it out, and it is a pretty safe enemy.
Last edited by dot; Nov 6, 2023 @ 10:11pm
Dr. Sinclair Nov 6, 2023 @ 11:05pm 
A long line of handgunners.

If you just ctrl+a and right click on him, he is absolutely gonna destroy you lol

get him to engage with a lord/hero, then set up a line of handguns/other ranged units and focus fire
Last edited by Dr. Sinclair; Nov 6, 2023 @ 11:05pm
Salty Nobody Nov 6, 2023 @ 11:20pm 
Best option is to wound Isabella on the campaign map.

Failing that use ranged units to kill them or at least do as much damage as you can. Destroy the rest of their army first, then separate them by kiting and kill Isabella before Vlad. Magic spells that deal direct damage work well for this as well, and projectile spells can help too but they might miss a lot. You want the vampires out of melee so they can't heal.

If you can't kill them outright with ranged, you will need to finish them off with high burst damage melee. Low entity units like lords, heroes, monsters, etc. Vlad heals by fighting so you want to make this quick. Cycle charge and reset.

Failing that you need to grind your way through his ridiculously high regen cap. I've done it, but in most cases your army will break before he does.
Last edited by Salty Nobody; Nov 6, 2023 @ 11:20pm
Whatever100500 Nov 6, 2023 @ 11:41pm 
The easiest option to kill strong heroes/lords is to play HE or WE and bring AP ranged + hero with immobilizing ability (WE waystalker, HE handmaiden). Or a light mage for any race that has them.

Then you immobilize the target a short distance in front of your army and focus fire with every ranged unit.
Last edited by Whatever100500; Nov 6, 2023 @ 11:47pm
Reaver79 Nov 7, 2023 @ 2:51am 
tie him down with an expendable unit, move handgunners or the like into position, pull the unit back to allow them to see his gimpy ass and pump it full of lead..
Coldhands Nov 7, 2023 @ 5:49am 
Assuming you're playing Empire, like everyone else said, Handgunners all the way.
If you can get a Light wizard, their Net spell can hold a target in place for a couple volleys worth.
There's also a handgunner Regiment of Renown that get's magic ammo which can bypass any physical resistance Vlad gets (I don't remember how much he has, but I'm guessing it's more than 0%).
Last edited by Coldhands; Nov 7, 2023 @ 5:49am
LoneWolf Nov 7, 2023 @ 6:18am 
Flaming swords cast on your handgunners.
Naustghoul Nov 7, 2023 @ 6:39am 
Fire and shooting, either combined or separate, but always focused on that bloody bastard and his wench. Just like most everyone here agrees.
A lot of other info would be helpful to know, here:

If this is early-game, yeah, handgunners.

If it's later on, options expand a bit more. Demigryphs cycle-charging... hero spam... a lot more options.

Everyone is assuming this is playing as Empire because their melee units are largely under-powered. Greatswords are better, but if surrounding with swordsmen or spears or flagellants, yeah, the damage per second you get will be very low because many models won't get into contact due to being blocked out, and those that do have such meager stats that the damage they inflict is infrequent.

But it's possible the OP isn't even Empire, I guess.
Salty Nobody Nov 7, 2023 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by Aluminum Elite Master:
A lot of other info would be helpful to know, here:

But it's possible the OP isn't even Empire, I guess.

Yeah, my experience with this problem is with Skarsnik, and let me tell you gobbos vs that duo isn't a fun match up either.
SquadLeader Nov 7, 2023 @ 8:04am 
I can't come up with a win/win tactic, if I were in your shoes I would bait them while building tier 4-5 units, then move at least 3 armies against them.
But it really depends at which point of the game are you.
Generally, try to focus on getting building at 5, and don't fear to use some low tier units (tier 1-3), too.
I also had problems with the Empire Vampires and sometimes with the Black Rose ones, but actually had more issues VS dwarves when they all rise up and attack you with 5-6 armies clumped up together, haha.
Human bean Nov 7, 2023 @ 8:06am 
All you need to do is show Isabelle a recent painting of Vlad cavorting with some Nuln girls, and bobs your uncle I think
Garatgh Deloi Nov 7, 2023 @ 8:07am 
(Just wait until you figure out that you likely have to kill them twice in the same turn thanks to the rise again mechanic).
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