Why are CA so stupid?

[Belegar]

Everyone tells them what they want, and that is for them to fix WH3 and make it better than WH2 in every aspect, but for some reason they refuse to listen to the people that feeds them.

If they just allocate a bit more resources to this game, they could make the community happy, supportive, and probably be willing to pay 25$ for every DLC.

Being able to sell a DLC for 25$ every four month is incredible, and i don't understand how CA is not getting that they have a cashcow in WH3 if they just put in some work to make it the game that we would all love, continue to support, and recommend to our friends and colleagues.

Ca get you head out of your ass! the answer to your problems are simple, just give us what we want and don't try to get away with doing the absolute minimum, while at the same time raising prices.

We want to support you CA! but you have to show some respect and start to listen, because without us you are worth nothing.

[The Ironguard]

the thing is, i don't think this is something you can just throw money at. You need actual talent, skilled programmers and designers, people who are willing to try new solutions, etc.
You look at CA culture, the woke infiltration, the corporate tyranny, and that is exactly what you don't get.

I mean they have had DECADES to perfect the total war formula, they have had YEARS to work on TW3 and the other total war games before that, which are basically just earlier versions of the same game, and you still get this.

The simple, sad fact, is that the CA people are either bad at their jobs, or aren't being allowed to do it by C-suite. This isn't going to get better unless there's a significant change in the internal structure, which isn't likely to happen because the people who are in charge are the ones benefiting from the current structure.

[BigJ]

Talent in CA left for better paying companies a while back, with some going into manor lords funnily enough. But most is hard to track, their linked in lists not much.

So now you have people who aren't as experienced with an outdated engine already bloated with rushed implementation, bug fixing is closer to playing mine sweeper.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

It can be any of the following reasons:
1: Too invested into politic's to run a bussiness(A problem many corperations have)
2: The lack of good workers(Related to above a lot of modern staff are entitled collage kids with lazy work ethic's, Companies struggle to find good employe's that accauly work instead of spending 90% of the work time of x(Formely twitter) or ticktock)
3: Those in charge are out of touch with reality and think all gamers are the same and like the same thing.
Worse they buy into the insanity that is modern day politic's and honestly think hyenas would sell.

CA is stupid because the people who work there arent interested in making a good game.
They are interested in spending the least for gaining the most.
All corperations are.
It is just easier to market a turd and sell it then make a good game.
After all there are plenty of good games out that that nobody knows exist.
Minecraft getting big is the execption to the rule.

Marketing sells and unfortantly a lot of marketing is either political or ignored.

[BucketOfBlood]

From my understanding

CA has driven themself into a corner for the sake of saving money, newer after newer titles are built on older games

Whenever a new patch is fixed in TWW3, more bugs will pop up cuz of an a problem that their engine isnt optimized

So CA is playing Wha-A-Mole with bugfixes

I heard an explanation from somewhere that CA tries to bugfix their crap, its like trying to move a needle out of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of neddles without moving any other needles

Aswell duo to incompetent leadership their staff dont get the time to become effective at their field of work, everything at CA is so short sighted, (Except hyenas tho i guess lol)

[KamelittaOida]

lol this ♥♥♥♥'s hilarious. add to that the Hyenas cancelation.
I'm here via this article https://www.pcgamesn.com/total-war-warhammer-3/steam-boycott-ban

Originally posted by Belegar:

Everyone tells them what they want, and that is for them to fix WH3 and make it better than WH2 in every aspect, but for some reason they refuse to listen to the people that feeds them.

If they just allocate a bit more resources to this game, they could make the community happy, supportive, and probably be willing to pay 25$ for every DLC.

....

stop trying to tell people how to run their company.

I think they know better who they can hire, who is available and at what price.

Originally posted by The Ironguard:

The simple, sad fact, is that the CA people are either bad at their jobs, or aren't being allowed to do it by C-suite. This isn't going to get better unless there's a significant change in the internal structure, which isn't likely to happen because the people who are in charge are the ones benefiting from the current structure.

exactly. It's not as simple as: make it better, we will pay.
no ♥♥♥♥ sherlock @ OP, but you need to make it good in the first place and at what price will that happen. who's willing to go into debt for that? etc.

Let it die and they _will_ have to restructure since it's owned by SEGA and they're a public company.
The worst thing that can happen to an IP is private ownership with no debt. That person can hold the IP "hostage" and if they wish, license it out to whoever they wish.
One prominent example would be the Dune franchise. I think the son or whoever, stated that he's not interested in licensing it out to someone who wants to do an RTS.

anyway, talk is cheap. vote with your wallet.

[KamelittaOida]

I think the worst part about the gaming industry is that most games are capped. There should be a climate where companies should embrace asking for higher prices.
The funny thing is this is exactly what happened here and the forum's atmosphere is the result.

One way the industry found its way is through free2play, where people who want to dump money into it, can, without some other half complain about how they get shafted for not being able to pay up.

Just move on and play the older games. This is how age of empires 2 came back. It was played for decades by the community (bit more nuanced in that case bc it was "free" and moddable), they released HD, it failed; then they released DE (definitive edition), it succeeded.

In the end both succeeded in a way; I don't remember any backlash with HD when DE released.
I was heavily playing the voobly-version offline in 2009-2012 and HD was an instant purchase for me. Didn't end up playing it (I'm actually blanking on why) but I guess it showed Microsoft there really is an overly active community behind that franchise and they made DE.

for the uninitiated: the differences between them is HD is strictly a remaster whereas DE is more of a continuation or re-imagination.

[Belegar]

Originally posted by KamelittaOida:

lol this ♥♥♥♥'s hilarious. add to that the Hyenas cancelation.
I'm here via this article https://www.pcgamesn.com/total-war-warhammer-3/steam-boycott-ban

Originally posted by Belegar:

Everyone tells them what they want, and that is for them to fix WH3 and make it better than WH2 in every aspect, but for some reason they refuse to listen to the people that feeds them.

If they just allocate a bit more resources to this game, they could make the community happy, supportive, and probably be willing to pay 25$ for every DLC.

....

stop trying to tell people how to run their company.

I think they know better who they can hire, who is available and at what price.

After the Hyenas and Pharao disasters you seriously expect me to believe that CA know what they are doing?

[KamelittaOida]

In terms of their finances you don't seem to know.
It's pointless for you and the rest to tell them what you would if they did. We all know.
good product = success
bad product = not so good success

If you had $1000 dollars in your bank and told me you wanted to retire from work and I replied to you: idk man just buy some Apple stock.
your reply would be: wow ur so smart. If only I was so smart.
These are people with business degrees after all.

even if you make a stink on this forum and hope SEGA notices, if nothing much changes in sales numbers and they see this "aggressive" community, why would they want to subject a new product to that community.

Anyway I'm not trying to take away a community's right to make up a stink. Just saying it's pointless and wasted energy on your part and I and others tried to simply point out the fallacy or wrong impression you seem to be under when it comes to finances.
On the other hand it's a good representation of what happens to newcomers to this industry if they don't think things through. It's a good way to stop diluting the industry even further into mediocrity.

thumb down your review, move on.

btw for future reference: if you buy/activate a product on Steam through a key, your review doesn't go towards the game's page score.

[Mepho]

Originally posted by KamelittaOida:

stop trying to tell people how to run their company.

I think they know better who they can hire, who is available and at what price.

Rofl.
This can't be serious.

They just got in deep ♥♥♥♥ because they overpriced their products and hired 800 employees right before hitting the greatest (and dumbest) crisis of their time.

You really had to mention exactly those two things, I'm laughing IRL.

Yeah mate, they sure know better, rofl.

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Mepho:

Originally posted by KamelittaOida:

stop trying to tell people how to run their company.

I think they know better who they can hire, who is available and at what price.

Rofl.
This can't be serious.

They just got in deep ♥♥♥♥ because they overpriced their products and hired 800 employees right before hitting the greatest (and dumbest) crisis of their time.

You really had to mention exactly those two things, I'm laughing IRL.

Yeah mate, they sure know better, rofl.

And you have proven you still dont know.

[MrVal]

People are rightly mad. But is anything going to change? Of course not why would they? It's simple they are a monopoly and can do whatever the hell they want.

[Mepho]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

And you have proven you still dont know.

Yeah, sure. Nevermind how, just spit some random comeback that sounds cool in your head.

What's coming out of the woodworks, lol.

[Toby Larone]

Everyone tells them what they want, those opinions however don't tend to be the same. The community as a single entity doesn't exist, its not a hive mind and its opinions diverge quiet a lot on several fundamental issues.

[Heru Ra Ha]

Originally posted by Belegar:

Everyone tells them what they want, and that is for them to fix WH3 and make it better than WH2 in every aspect, but for some reason they refuse to listen to the people that feeds them.

If they just allocate a bit more resources to this game, they could make the community happy, supportive, and probably be willing to pay 25$ for every DLC.

Being able to sell a DLC for 25$ every four month is incredible, and i don't understand how CA is not getting that they have a cashcow in WH3 if they just put in some work to make it the game that we would all love, continue to support, and recommend to our friends and colleagues.

Ca get you head out of your ass! the answer to your problems are simple, just give us what we want and don't try get away with doing the absolute minimum, while at the same time raising prices.

We want to support you CA! but you have to show some respect and start to listen, because without us you are worth nothing.

That is what happens when you listen to every white knight there ever was for CA instead of the people who have been giving constructive crticism for a decade.

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Mepho:

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

And you have proven you still dont know.

Yeah, sure. Nevermind how, just spit some random comeback that sounds cool in your head.

What's coming out of the woodworks, lol.

How about this then
You run a company under a larger company that raises the prices of all games it publishes, you are left with 2 choices
1. raise the prices with the agreement of the publishers decision even if it means hurting your fans.
2. You give up everything you worked for years on unable to make the same games or continue using the Original Company and name after you leave the publisher gives all your hard work over to someone who will do what the publisher has demanded you do in the first place.