Factions' behaviours to peace treaty

[SquadLeader]

I noticed some factions will betray you much faster even after they asked for a Peace Treaty.

Most noticeable are Vampire Counts and Skaven.
I know that these two factions are extremely cunning and they won't hesitate to either create a false sense of trust or stab you in the back, especially when you play as The Empire, High Elves, Bretonnia or Grand Cathay.

Do you know how other factions may usually behave after a peace treaty has been signed?

As for me, I'm currently playing as Exiles of Nehek and I need to destroy Crooked Moon to win the campaign, however they're quite far away and getting pounded by Knights of Caledor, Chaos Dwarves and Goldtooth.
However, while slowly getting to them I ended up at war against High Elves, all the Lizardmen, Bretonnia, and The Empire.

I basically wiped all the High Elves on Ulthuan and I'm halfway through the Lizardmen, too.
After I had beaten most of Bretonnia, both they and The Empire asked for a Peace Treaty.

Will that be honored, or will they backstab me as soon as possible?

[Man of Culture]

Well the AI doesn't have to worry about diplomacy penalties. That's a player only mechanic far as I can tell. So AI will typically try to eff you over as hard as they can while they have a statistic advantage and the moment it's gone and they're on the decline they'll offer you peace treaties.

If the faction who offers the peace treaty has existing ties to another faction you're still warring with then that peace treaty is likely to dissolve much faster because you're beating on their ally and there's a chance that ally will pay them money to war with you again which I have to assume still happens between turns even between the AI.

If a race has a severe aversion to yours then it's also likely to dissolve faster since they have a permanent debuff to relations to you that runs deep in the -100's.

If you're warring a faction who had no business warring you in the first place or doesn't have penalties that go too far negative then that peace is likely to remain and/or grow. Especially if you're warring someone they don't like.

[thecleaner517]

I played Kugath, on Normal. Got all the way to the Eastern Provinces. Had a non agression pact with Lokir and Vilitch. Then, out of nowhere, they declared war on me. Easily manhandled them by eating away at their territory and armies. Lokir and Vilitch had enough and proposed a peace which I accepted because I was still hammering Ying.

Once Ying was out of the picture, I tried to go after Ninja Rat BUT Vilitch and Lokir declared war on me again. Pushed Vilitch back over the bastion ate up more of Lokirs territory when, guess what, they proposed peace.Which I took because grimgor decided jump into the fray.


So I defended against grimgor and while I was man handling him, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vilitch and Lokir declared war again. So I said. ♥♥♥♥ this! Held off grimgor, while I made extinct Vilitch and Lokir.

Thats when i learned that making peace is only a 10 turn temporary reprieve until they go to war with you again. Just make sure you can handle multiple fronts when ♥♥♥♥ like that happens.

[kkc495]

Originally posted by SquadLeader:

Most noticeable are Vampire Counts and Skaven.

What do you expect from evil vampire?

As for Skaven, they will back stab their own kind in the story. So the game developer will probably implement the same kind of behavior in the game is not a surprise. LOL

Never trust a peace treaty from your faction natural enemy in the story.

For example if you play dwarf when a Skaven ask for peace it just mean they are losing the war, so just reject it, push forward and destroy them to put an end to their misery.

[SquadLeader]

Thank you all for your feedbacks. :)

But then, as Tomb Kings, who are my natural enemies?

I noticed some factions hate me just because, for example Malekith and the White Dwarf declared war on Khatep at the same time during my campaign.

I can see that Malekith seeks to expand and would declare war to anybody, but what's the deal with the White Dwarf?

As Settra, I wanted to expand VS Exiles of Khorne and Bloody Handz, but then Ironbrow Expedition keeps being on worse and worse terms with Settra.
I guess, that since Settra is a tyrant, he's not too loved by default?

I'm learning a lot about faction relationships by reading the lore, they truly are fascinating, especially when you find out why, for example, High Elves dislike other High Elves.