Is an undivided demon prince better than a normal lord?

[st0815]

Hi, I just exalted a normal melee lord to an undivided demon prince. Looking at the stats I'm somewhat disappointed because they are pretty much all worse. What is the point of exalting? Only the fire magic that melee lords don't have?

[SqkaStxppvh]

Originally posted by st0815:

Hi, I just exalted a normal melee lord to an undivided demon prince. Looking at the stats I'm somewhat disappointed because they are pretty much all worse. What is the point of exalting? Only the fire magic that melee lords don't have?

Yeah from what I can tell its probably better to get a chaos lord on a dragon and skip undivided daemon princes, unless you really want a fire mage as a lord instead of a hero.

[st0815]

Originally posted by ICEMAN SLIM:

Originally posted by st0815:

Hi, I just exalted a normal melee lord to an undivided demon prince. Looking at the stats I'm somewhat disappointed because they are pretty much all worse. What is the point of exalting? Only the fire magic that melee lords don't have?

Yeah from what I can tell its probably better to get a chaos lord on a dragon and skip undivided daemon princes, unless you really want a fire mage as a lord instead of a hero.

I play as Valkia and just tried an exalted demon prince of khorne and he also seem to be worse than the original undivided lord he started as.

[SomeGuy1]

Undivided Daemon Princes struck me as pretty subpar, especially compared to being on a Chaos Dragon.
I really like Khorne and Slaanesh Daemon Princes though. They get great personal skills and the Slaanesh one's spell selection is fantastic.

EDIT: and while an Undivided lord's Chaos Dragon is great, if I have an army of Marked units I'm going to want them helmed by a similarly Marked lord to take advantage of the Authority I'm stacking on them... and the mounts for Khorne- and Slaanesh- Marked lords are pretty lame.

[The Sand Witch]

flying, terror, fire magic. And a lot of garbage

[Garatgh Deloi]

They are more of a side grade then a upgrade. If we are talking a one on one duel they do often tend to be weaker then the marked chaos lord or chaos lord sorcerer (Depends a bit). But taking into consideration that they also lose levels when ascending they are pretty much guaranteed to start out weaker.

As to why you might want to do it, it does have some advantages, for example: They gain flight. Two of their lord perks gets replaced (you may prefer the new ones). They (unless they are Khrone) gets a mixed spell tree (again, might be preferable). Assuming you are playing Warriors of Chaos they can get some new more powerful path to glory upgrades that aren't available before becoming a deamon prince.

But it also has disadvantages, for example becoming a large target (So easier to attack with both ranged and melee), its as said a sidegrade rather then a upgrade.

For undivided the dragon mount is often a better choice (in my humble opinion).

[st0815]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

They are more of a side grade then a upgrade. If we are talking a one on one duel they do often tend to be weaker then the marked chaos lord or chaos lord sorcerer (Depends a bit). But taking into consideration that they also lose levels when ascending they are pretty much guaranteed to start out weaker.

As to why you might want to do it, it does have some advantages, for example: They gain flight. Two of their lord perks gets replaced (you may prefer the new ones). They (unless they are Khrone) gets a mixed spell tree (again, might be preferable). Assuming you are playing Warriors of Chaos they can get some new more powerful path to glory upgrades that aren't available before becoming a deamon prince.

But it also has disadvantages, its as said a sidegrade rather then a upgrade.

Undivided Lords already have flight because of great dragons and the undivided demon prince (which was in my question) only has the lore of fire.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by st0815:

Undivided Lords already have flight because of great dragons and the undivided demon prince (which was in my question) only has the lore of fire.

Yea for undivided the dragon is often a better choice. I guess it kinda comes down to the new lord perks and better path of glory upgrades for undivided deamon princes (if that is something you want).

[Arthur two sheds Jackson]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

They are more of a side grade then a upgrade. If we are talking a one on one duel they do often tend to be weaker then the marked chaos lord or chaos lord sorcerer (Depends a bit). But taking into consideration that they also lose levels when ascending they are pretty much guaranteed to start out weaker.

As to why you might want to do it, it does have some advantages, for example: They gain flight. Two of their lord perks gets replaced (you may prefer the new ones). They (unless they are Khrone) gets a mixed spell tree (again, might be preferable). Assuming you are playing Warriors of Chaos they can get some new more powerful path to glory upgrades that aren't available before becoming a deamon prince.

But it also has disadvantages, for example becoming a large target (So easier to attack with both ranged and melee), its as said a sidegrade rather then a upgrade.

For undivided the dragon mount is often a better choice (in my humble opinion).

for a side grade they are pretty expensive anyway compared to the free dragon you get once you reach its level requirment

[Verchial]

I don’t think so. I find them pretty disappointing.

[Man of Culture]

You want to know how Generals that transform to Daemon Princes are?

You make your general a demon. He dies.
You move your general who is a demon across the map. He dies.
You click a settlement. He dies.
You go into a fight. He dies.
You click an enemy in the fight. He dies.
You look away for .02 seconds. He dies.
You try to have him solo some fell bats. He dies.
You call your parents but they don't love you. He dies.

[Ashley]

I don't think they're good in my opinion. I can really only speak to the Khorne ones and those Khorne demon princes I got to like 1k weapon strength + with right equips

[SpeaksTooFast]

I think they can be pretty good for Belakor as hey can get them without upgrading and knows the traits in advance. Otherwise I'd lean more sidegrade than upgrade.

[omns9491]

One had more speed, armor, and missile resistance. The other has more melee attack, melee defense, and more physical resistance, plus magic fire.