Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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Skali May 28, 2023 @ 3:36pm
Is it hard for a non-strategy gamer?

I'm usually not that deep into strategy games. Warhammer 3 peaks my interest because I love how cinematic the battles look. I could imagine having fun building an empire and slowly taking over the world in a sandbox strategy game.

So basically, I'm here for the atmosphere. Does the game offer a relaxed experience on easy difficulty, for a non-strategy gamer?
Last edited by Skali; May 29, 2023 @ 2:30am
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Alar May 28, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Its likely not the simplest out there but on easy with a faction that doesn't have too many mechanics it should be ok. There isn't THAT many things you can do each turn, untill you conquer a lot of land of course.
Captain Baldy May 28, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Just play on easiest and you will soon pick it up and learn about its mechanics but sometimes also, part of the fun is losing with this game.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2982056101
Last edited by Captain Baldy; May 28, 2023 @ 4:17pm
TwisteD LogiC May 28, 2023 @ 4:17pm 
I don't consider myself a strategy gamer either and it took me a while to really get into it. My suggestions would be:
  • looking up some basic tutorials to get you started and maybe get someone experienced to play a coop campaign with you, both to teach you things on the fly and to bail you out of any jams you might get into.
  • Pick an easier faction - there are some beginner friendly factions in game with this exact purpose.
  • Don't be afraid to retry battles/reload saves - a rule of thumb I have is that you can usually do at least 1 grade better than the autoresolve, so try to give yourself a similar goal. Maybe try to at least match it at the start.
  • Sometimes a faction might be missing units that fit your playstyle, because they're part of a specific dlc. Get the ones that you want if you enjoy the faction but feel like it is lacking some oomph.
There's a lot to the game so it might take a while, but it is very enjoyable once you get going. I'm a relative newcomer to the franchise and I've sunk 700+ hours into TWW2 + TWW3
Skali May 29, 2023 @ 1:47am 
Thank you for your answers!

How punishing is the micromanagement in the game, especially on the easy difficulty? I recently played Age of Wonders 4 and once I thought I figured out the basics, the enemy AI had an army four times as large - probably because I didn't really manage all my settlements well enough so my economy was trash.
How is it with this game? Has anyone played both and can compare them at the micromanagement?
Last edited by Skali; May 29, 2023 @ 1:48am
Simka May 29, 2023 @ 1:52am 
Originally posted by Skali:
Thank you for your answers!

How punishing is the micromanagement in the game, especially on the easy difficulty? I recently played Age of Wonders 4 and once I thought I figured out the basics, the enemy AI had an army four times as large - probably because I didn't really manage all my settlements well enough so my economy was trash.
How is it with this game? Has anyone played both and can compare them at the micromanagement?
That had nothing to do with you managing your economy badly, the AI cheats, in almost every game. As long as you don't start out with Kurgath in Immortal Empires you will be fine.
Captain Baldy May 29, 2023 @ 2:16am 
Ku'gath can be a rewarding character to play, provided you approach him differently than you would with other factions. He truly shines when you adopt a patient and strategic play style, focusing on the long-term game. While it may be challenging to establish a position of martial strength at the outset, once Ku'gath reaches his full potential, he becomes a force to be reckoned with, capable of shaking the world like no other

One of the distinctive aspects of playing as Ku'gath is the enjoyment derived from the inherent difficulty. His forces are characterised by their slow and ponderous nature, adding an extra layer of challenge to the gameplay experience which is not easy, agreed but is its own reward when you start to shine . Mastering Ku'gath's mechanics and maximising his strengths can provide a unique and fulfilling game play dynamic. that is as rewarding as it can be frustrating :WH3_nurgling:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2981565274
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Lunos May 29, 2023 @ 2:17am 
The micro is very manageable because the game lets you issue orders while paused and even has a slow time button so you can take battles at your own pace. It's great for looking over the battlefield at your leisure and figuring out what is going on and where to move your troops.

For the economic portion, it's pretty straightforward. You build either a military building that lets you recruit certain troops, build an economy building that nets you more cash or a building that manages your settlements public order. Once you play for a little while you get the hang of it quickly.
Simka May 29, 2023 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by a mite of Nurgle:
Ku'gath can be a rewarding character to play, provided you approach him differently than you would with other factions. He truly shines when you adopt a patient and strategic play style, focusing on the long-term game. While it may be challenging to establish a position of martial strength at the outset, once Ku'gath reaches his full potential, he becomes a force to be reckoned with, capable of shaking the world like no other

One of the distinctive aspects of playing as Ku'gath is the enjoyment derived from the inherent difficulty. His forces are characterised by their slow and ponderous nature, adding an extra layer of challenge to the gameplay experience which is not easy, agreed but is its own reward when you start to shine . Mastering Ku'gath's mechanics and maximising his strengths can provide a unique and fulfilling game play dynamic. that is as rewarding as it can be frustrating :WH3_nurgling:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2981565274
i was refering more to the fact that Kurgath has a harder start in Mortal Empires than others, if OP is new to the series, it's not the best pick. BC if you have to learn the game from scrap, dealing with Ghorst is not the easiest task to start with
Captain Baldy May 29, 2023 @ 2:44am 
I Agree with you, I was just being daft and silly :steamhappy::steamthumbsup:
Emilia Tempest May 29, 2023 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by Skali:
Thank you for your answers!

How punishing is the micromanagement in the game, especially on the easy difficulty? I recently played Age of Wonders 4 and once I thought I figured out the basics, the enemy AI had an army four times as large - probably because I didn't really manage all my settlements well enough so my economy was trash.
How is it with this game? Has anyone played both and can compare them at the micromanagement?
Basically, if you simply just throw in the money building in every settlement, your economy will be good.
You may want some growth buildings but since you just start out no need to min-max right away.

Make sure to build money builings and walls and you should be good.
And pick a race that has an easy time, if you only have Game 3 youre better off playing Konstaltyn or Zhao Ming. Miao Ying does also have an easy start but starts at the great wall of Cathay so you have another mechanic to deal with which Zhao Ming doesnt.
Zhao Ming, being cathay, also needs to balance their buildings.

Kolstaltyn has a rather difficult start (ruins are occupied by skaven, a strong race is near his start), but not much micromanagement of settlements.
While Zhao Ming has an easy start, but has a mild amount of micromanaging of settlements (due to needing to keep Yin and Yang at balance or suffer consequences).

The easiest race to get into are High Elves (especially Tyrion), they dont have any big mechanics to worry about, they got a solid early game army that isnt complicated (spearmen and archers).
If you can expend some more money, do buy Total War Warhammer 2 (since High Elves are a game 2 race) as well as this game. But you absolutely do NOT have to.
Skali May 29, 2023 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Emilia Tempest:
Originally posted by Skali:
Thank you for your answers!

How punishing is the micromanagement in the game, especially on the easy difficulty? I recently played Age of Wonders 4 and once I thought I figured out the basics, the enemy AI had an army four times as large - probably because I didn't really manage all my settlements well enough so my economy was trash.
How is it with this game? Has anyone played both and can compare them at the micromanagement?
Basically, if you simply just throw in the money building in every settlement, your economy will be good.
You may want some growth buildings but since you just start out no need to min-max right away.

Make sure to build money builings and walls and you should be good.
And pick a race that has an easy time, if you only have Game 3 youre better off playing Konstaltyn or Zhao Ming. Miao Ying does also have an easy start but starts at the great wall of Cathay so you have another mechanic to deal with which Zhao Ming doesnt.
Zhao Ming, being cathay, also needs to balance their buildings.

Kolstaltyn has a rather difficult start (ruins are occupied by skaven, a strong race is near his start), but not much micromanagement of settlements.
While Zhao Ming has an easy start, but has a mild amount of micromanaging of settlements (due to needing to keep Yin and Yang at balance or suffer consequences).

The easiest race to get into are High Elves (especially Tyrion), they dont have any big mechanics to worry about, they got a solid early game army that isnt complicated (spearmen and archers).
If you can expend some more money, do buy Total War Warhammer 2 (since High Elves are a game 2 race) as well as this game. But you absolutely do NOT have to.

Ironically, I do own Warhammer 2 already, though I don't recall much of it. Is there a demonic-themed race to start with as a beginner?

Buying the game and a DLC or two isn't an issue. I just fear that I spent another week learning a game that in the end is too complex for the time I currently have for video games :-/
Last edited by Skali; May 29, 2023 @ 3:24am
Emilia Tempest May 29, 2023 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by Skali:
Ironically, I do own Warhammer 2 already, though I don't recall much of it. Is there a demonic-themed race to start with as a beginner?

Nurgle is very difficult to understand (even for me who played it for a very long time it was difficult to wrap my head around) and is rather weak and has a stupidly hard start.

Khorne is as far removed from being "beginner friendly" as you could get.

Tzeentch has an stupidly hard start, maybe the hardest in the game. (aka not beginner friendly)

Slaanesh is somewhat beginner friendly, but due to having very glass-cannony troops its not very beginner friendly either.

Deamons of Chaos is all of the above, and therefore not beginner firendly at all.

Then there would be the Warrior of Chaos, but those have Demons more as a side thing rather than being its theme.
Belakor however is the most demon focused of the Warriors of Chaos but I dont know if you need the Warrior of Chaos DLC (Warhammer 1 dlc) or the Champions of Chaos (warhammer 3 dlc) or both.

Warriors of Chaos also have the least micromanagement of settlements (as you only have 1 slot on anything that isnt a Dark Fortress). But you do have to sell off your weak settlements to your vassals (which can betray you! beware to not make too many hostile friends!)

Edit: according to the Immortal Empires FAQ from CA, Belakor is free to use with just the base game!
Source: https://www.totalwar.com/blog/tww3_immortalempires_240_faq/
Last edited by Emilia Tempest; May 29, 2023 @ 3:39am
Paranoia May 29, 2023 @ 3:39am 
I used to be pretty good at the game but ever since i beat the warriors of chaos campaign in warhammer 2 i feel like ive gotten worse.

I spent the entire 130 turn campaign sitting my army in a forest while archaon solos the entire army with burning head and the sword of khaine. This was on legendary.

So no, you don't need to be very good at strategy games to play this.
But on the other hand depending on what factions you pick you can make things insanely difficult.
Skali May 29, 2023 @ 3:59am 
I took the jump! Hope I survive the beginner campaign, because these narratively lead campaigns often turn me off. Thanks again for your answers!
IonizedMercury May 29, 2023 @ 4:00am 
Warriors of Chaos are about as easy a start as it gets. You have near infinite money almost right away, you can recruit troops anywhere including some very high tier ones way before anyone else can get them and you can draw from the entire daemon roster if you don't play as an aligned champion. You never need to worry about attacks because no one ever bothers attacking your dark fortresses (and that's the only settlements you need, raze everything else or gift it to your vassals) and even if the stars align and the cowardly AI tries to do so, your baseline defensive towers are hellcannons so it's not like the AI has any chance here.

Of course, once you've learned the ropes, all those advantages will make WoC unbelievably boring but that's for later to worry about.
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