Best lore for Karl's wizard?

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Curious as to which wizard lore is best for Karl Franz's turn 2 wizard, fire seems like to safe choice but at the same time in my last attempt at Karl (update borked my mods so I'm restarting) Karl while very strong takes a lot of damage (low defense and high attack) and I'm wondering if a jade wizard to heal him would be better or something to buff him in combat.

[Solis]

If I'm ever bored of bringing fire I go with light for the nets and armor buffs. Combined with handgunners and charges can be good.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Solis:

If I'm ever bored of bringing fire I go with light for the nets and armor buffs. Combined with handgunners and charges can be good.

Its not so much that its boring for me I'm just wanting to know what works best with him, are life wizards still really strong like in 2? Or has that changed I know a lot did since 2.

[bearfieldlee]

Yeah, I always prefer fire as I go for the Fecundites first and by the time I've gotten rid of them the wizard is nicely levelled up for use against the VC's.

[Amereth]

Life or Light.

Life is amazing overall for keeping your troops fresh and the dmg spells aren't too bad.


Light is amazing for the net and comes with decent buffs, Banishment if you are lucky will do a good amount of dmg.


but yeah a Jade wizard is hard to beat.


fire wizard can be nice vs Vampires but it isn't needed.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Amereth:

Life or Light.

Life is amazing overall for keeping your troops fresh and the dmg spells aren't too bad.


Light is amazing for the net and comes with decent buffs, Banishment if you are lucky will do a good amount of dmg.


but yeah a Jade wizard is hard to beat.


fire wizard can be nice vs Vampires but it isn't needed.

So in the case that I'm reloading my save to attempt to recruit a life wizard would you say its worth it?

[Amereth]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Originally posted by Amereth:

Life or Light.

Life is amazing overall for keeping your troops fresh and the dmg spells aren't too bad.


Light is amazing for the net and comes with decent buffs, Banishment if you are lucky will do a good amount of dmg.


but yeah a Jade wizard is hard to beat.


fire wizard can be nice vs Vampires but it isn't needed.

So in the case that I'm reloading my save to attempt to recruit a life wizard would you say its worth it?

you aren't far so yeah it is.

Fire isn't as good as it was in wh2.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Amereth:

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

So in the case that I'm reloading my save to attempt to recruit a life wizard would you say its worth it?

you aren't far so yeah it is.

Fire isn't as good as it was in wh2.

Huh I thought getting kindle flame in 3? Then again I'm probably miss remembering.

[Amereth]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Originally posted by Amereth:

you aren't far so yeah it is.

Fire isn't as good as it was in wh2.

Huh I thought getting kindle flame in 3? Then again I'm probably miss remembering.

kindle flame was in wh2 and gave a weakness to fire, maybe they did some change to it that i forgot.

But overall all spells have been nerfed dmg wise.

Im not saying fire lore is bad... Im saying it is worse than it was, it is still good.


A jade wizard with some leveling will allow Karl to ''solo'' armies.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Amereth:

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Huh I thought getting kindle flame in 3? Then again I'm probably miss remembering.

kindle flame was in wh2 and gave a weakness to fire, maybe they did some change to it that i forgot.

But overall all spells have been nerfed dmg wise.

Im not saying fire lore is bad... Im saying it is worse than it was, it is still good.


A jade wizard with some leveling will allow Karl to ''solo'' armies.

So generally spells that buff units have become more useful in 3.

[Amereth]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Originally posted by Amereth:

kindle flame was in wh2 and gave a weakness to fire, maybe they did some change to it that i forgot.

But overall all spells have been nerfed dmg wise.

Im not saying fire lore is bad... Im saying it is worse than it was, it is still good.


A jade wizard with some leveling will allow Karl to ''solo'' armies.

So generally spells that buff units have become more useful in 3.

indirectly yes, but they , for the most part, are still trash because of low duration and high cdr.

Karl doesn't have a lot of source of healing, even less now that Isabella is gone. So the healing from a life wiz is extremely usefull.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Best lore for Karl's wizard?

Well according to the community.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pN8YG0ANJI

you're right :)

[Falaris]

Most spells have become somewhat more uniform in performance, with less variance between lores. However, Fire is still the preeminent damage school, and fire is great against anything with regeneration - it now not only does extra damage, but halts healing.

So, fire is still really good against both fecundites and vampires.

However, life and light are also solid. A big change is that healing is now % - based, so healing something with twice as much max hp, heals twice as much damage. Healing has thus become more viable to use on SEM's.

Buff spells are also still good, especially to deal with specific problems.

[Amereth]

Originally posted by SBA77:

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Best lore for Karl's wizard?

Well according to the community.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pN8YG0ANJI

you're right :)

rofl first time seeing this video.

I was wondering why Karl Hated my guts while playing Elspeth and recruiting only Amethyst wizards, now i know.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Amereth:

Originally posted by SBA77:

Well according to the community.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pN8YG0ANJI

you're right :)

rofl first time seeing this video.

I was wondering why Karl Hated my guts while playing Elspeth and recruiting only Amethyst wizards, now i know.

I'm pretty sure that must have been Karl from the Mirror Universe, because had it been the real Karl he would have loved you because you took all the amethyst wizards so he could all the wizards he wanted.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Falaris:

Most spells have become somewhat more uniform in performance, with less variance between lores. However, Fire is still the preeminent damage school, and fire is great against anything with regeneration - it now not only does extra damage, but halts healing.

So, fire is still really good against both fecundites and vampires.

However, life and light are also solid. A big change is that healing is now % - based, so healing something with twice as much max hp, heals twice as much damage. Healing has thus become more viable to use on SEM's.

Buff spells are also still good, especially to deal with specific problems.

For me and how I plan on playing a jade wizard would be the best, the way I see it your LL has to be your main invasion/attack force and thus the army needs to be set up for aggressive play. With the empire how I understand it that means multiple demi knights, a steam tank or two, and maybe some greatswords and healing would work the best for that.

Of course the beasts wizard doesn't looks a little tempting with the buffs they grand and that he gets a griffon mount but their of little help in the early game.