Throt the Unclean

[Monsignor Muscle]

Hello all. This game is fantastic. However I seem to be having trouble reaching the middle game or even late game with Throt the unclean and was wondering if anyone had any tips yet? I know that they added some tougher factions to the north to help balance/ add a challenge. This I greatly appreciate as it makes the game more fun. I've played with Throt for about 80 hours now and have been unsuccessful in my endeavors. Any advice is welcome. Thank you in advance.

[Monsignor Muscle]

It should be noted that previous tactics used in TW2 have failed me. Understandably as there are now unbreakable Russians in the north lmao

[raynay]

Hard to say without further detail....is it eco or battles which blocks you.....havent played thrott in Wh3 yet but sending out the heroes (is it the warplock engi?) to build undercity mainly for some additional food and gold always is a nice boost (send em to places where u wont expand eg lothern lustria) if u have enough food u can upgrade citys when winning...so major citys at least t3 is nice, get some allys and include some of their units in your army (eg WoC havin 2+ chosen as some shielded anvil never a bad thing for ya squishy front) and have a look at some youtube vids (zerkovich and legend sure have some further details)

[raynay]

ah, didnt see your 2nd post, well if u know the skaven basics forget my stuff as i thought you might be a wh newb ...as i said havent done him in 3 ;-.D

[Monsignor Muscle]

Alright Ima just complain for a moment about these Russians. Like for real I get it COMMUNISM. Everyone has a role and everyone believes in it. But you are telling me that the peasant farmer conscript is literally going to fight to the death against unbeatable odds just because he is *communist*. Like umm no sir, the Hell pit abomination that has a mutation that literally causes fear should still scare you. Like do you not have children to live for that you want to see? You are still human even if you are *communist* you are still susceptible to fear. I shouldn't need 3 20 stacks of middle to upper tear units just to stand a chance. And further more, these freaking *communists* are siding with orks and chaos dawi in battle just because they are there? I feel like there are some fundamental differences in those societies that they would never work together to defeat me at the Hell pit around turn 50. I mean think about the opening clip in TW2. It was like 5 armies fighting each other not 4 armies fighting the Elves. Wack with a capital W.

[Monsignor Muscle]

Ohh no worries @ raynay

[Monsignor Muscle]

I still appreciate the advice honestly lol @ raynay

[raynay]

well from lore, they fended off chaos for generations, some mutated rats aint that big deal for them ;-D

[Monsignor Muscle]

ohh ok, well I guess that explains it

[Monsignor Muscle]

dang, then I just need to git gud

[Monsignor Muscle]

I will note that I am going to attempt to take the initial advice for throt that TW3 gives the player at the start of the game to the nth degree and see if that works well. Additionally I'll also being super aggressive attacking settlements to establish undercities. I'm excited to see how that works out.

[Rezzx]

Originally posted by Monsignor Muscle:

Alright Ima just complain for a moment about these Russians. Like for real I get it COMMUNISM. Everyone has a role and everyone believes in it. But you are telling me that the peasant farmer conscript is literally going to fight to the death against unbeatable odds just because he is *communist*. Like umm no sir, the Hell pit abomination that has a mutation that literally causes fear should still scare you. Like do you not have children to live for that you want to see? You are still human even if you are *communist* you are still susceptible to fear. I shouldn't need 3 20 stacks of middle to upper tear units just to stand a chance. And further more, these freaking *communists* are siding with orks and chaos dawi in battle just because they are there? I feel like there are some fundamental differences in those societies that they would never work together to defeat me at the Hell pit around turn 50. I mean think about the opening clip in TW2. It was like 5 armies fighting each other not 4 armies fighting the Elves. Wack with a capital W.

Kinda sounds like the commies of Russia from WWII...Check out how many people Russia lost in WWII

[Monsignor Muscle]

Thats fair honestly. A witch leader could definitely scare me enough to fight. @Rezzx

[Monsignor Muscle]

Also I will say, Artillery has proved effective against them. I will attempt to exploit that further

[Monsignor Muscle]

Ok took like 83 hours but I have learned my lesson. Tl;Dr Be aggressive in the early game. Expand underempire. Mutate a bunch of low tear things like wolf rats. Give the wolfrats mammoth armor. Raise second army. Get artillery in second army. Have hench rats. Sit back and laugh. Only on turn 36 and this is a very different game than previous attempts. :)

[SomeGuy1]

Kislev is more Imperial Russia than the USSR...