Survey- Best Faction. Worst faction. And.....

[steelmidnight]

I'm just curious as to where everyone stands with the game in its current state.

So list the best faction (The one you think is most fun to play)

The worst faction (The one you think is the most boring hands on)

And finally, the faction you WANT to see get better, as in one you like the lore and asthetics of, but you find they don't play or perform well and you want to see them overhauled.

You can explain why if you choose, or just list them.

For me its-

BEST
Warriors of Chaos
(There overhaul finally did them justice)

WORST
Dwarves. MAN they need some serious work

HOPEFUL FOR
Mono factions. Particularly Khorne. They just fall flat compared to everyone else, and should have more campaign variety/start positions/goals ect.

I also wish they would bring back explorable ruins and locations but WITHOUT the stupid puzzles.

[Ire]

best... maybe chorfs? Unit caps prevent them from being completely OP but they are very good (and Im a sucker for more complexity)

worst, ogres. I wanted to like them but their campaign mechanics are just so gd bad.

Hopeful, ogres (if I can pick them for both catagories) or cathay (who are already great but I'm curious to see what they add)

[Ashley]

Best: Dark Elves
Worst: Bretonnia. Nurgle is a close second. Nurgle has good lore so it's saved from being being complete trash unlike Bretonnia is.

Hopeful for Amazaons

[jonoliveira12]

Best: Khorne

Worst: Bretonnia

[Rubyeyed]

Best - Chorfs
Worst - Demon Prince Faction, he isn't good at anything, I didn't have fun during that campaign and I ended up just going Khorne and playing him as Khorne.
Improve - Honestly, the worst faction in the game could finally get an overhaul. I mean Nakai, he is a disaster since day 1 in WH2. Aside from that sick fantasy, Dwarves need to get on Chorfs level.

[Kel'Thuzad]

Best: WoC
Worst: Beastmen?
Hopeful for: Nagash

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Rubyeyed:

Best - Chorfs
Worst - Demon Prince Faction, he isn't good at anything, I didn't have fun during that campaign and I ended up just going Khorne and playing him as Khorne.
Improve - Honestly, the worst faction in the game could finally get an overhaul. I mean Nakai, he is a disaster since day 1 in WH2. Aside from that sick fantasy, Dwarves need to get on Chorfs level.

Dwarfs will never get on Chorf level.
Chorfs are literally "the better Dwarfs", always were, even on the TT, and were designed specifically to be so.

Chorfs are literally Dwarfs, but without any flaws, except there being even fewer of them to go around.

[kilen]

Best is skaven
Worst is dwarfs
The one needing some love more… Dwarfs obviously, but it’s on the way soon with 5.0update, hopefully well made.
Other than that, maybe Bretonnia or Cathay could have some new mechanics and units added. Cathay feels a bit unfinished.
And bretonnia is obsolete, closer of a WH1 race basically… they need a big overhaul and more depth of gameplay.
With the same existing prerequisites, cavalry first, strong melee lords/heroes, decent magic, and weak peasants as canon fodder, etc. But adding new content around it and new campaign map mechanics and objectives.
Also an endgame crisis for bretonnia would be good, something giving the order tide some strengh they hardly need in end game.
And the possibility to form a huge order alliance by a new mechanic.
Strengthening allied garrisons maybe (also from others order races), that would help bretonnia a lot, but also the others.
Buffing allied armies automatically (the blue army from an other faction origin during battles) if you fight together chaos armies for example, etc.
Things like that.

When you see how it’s easy to form the chaos tide with Chorfs for example, trading with 20+ trade partners and ally with all chaos factions if you want to.
Event just be NAP-friends and together having the same enemies, it’s too easy in comparison of how the order tide struggle to form a great alliance.

There are a lot of options, up to see if the devs will be inspired or not.

But tbh, am a lot more worried by the state of the game right now (bugs, mechanics not working, tooltips full of errors and inactive features, etc).
New content, there will be no matter what, we can be sure of that.
At the contrary, the efforts the devs put to try to fix all that doesn’t work as it should since initial release is insufficient.
and few have been tested in upstream (waiting a player contacting the support to eventually check it ; we, the playerbase, are doing the beta testing process for free basically).
That’s the big issue right now.
And far more urgent than new content.

But nonetheless, bretonnia & order tide receiving some love would be good yeah…
We’ll see with time, needs to be patient in any case, so… crossing fingers & hoping for the best.

[feillyne]

Most fun to play or easiest?

Easiest: Warriors of Chaos / particularly Valkia
Hardest: Greasus, Kugath, Boris Ursus

Best: all High Elves factions, you can manipulate diplo
2nd Best: Chaos Dorfs
Worst:
Empire (no imperial dwarf engineers, no festivals/rites, and so on)
Bretonnia (esp since their local rivals Southerners/Arabyans were cut out of the game)
WoC, too easy to play

Hopeful for? Monogod Norsca tribes such as Rotblood and Aesling. Not conservatively? For all the forgotten races and cultures: Amazons, Araby, Southern Realms, etc. (lol Malice from 40k as a monogod)

[Diggy G]

Best: WoC
Worst: Dark Elves

[steelmidnight]

Originally posted by feillyne:

Most fun to play or easiest?

Easiest: Warriors of Chaos / particularly Valkia
Hardest: Greasus, Kugath, Boris Ursus

Best: all High Elves factions, you can manipulate diplo
2nd Best: Chaos Dorfs
Worst:
Empire (no imperial dwarf engineers, no festivals/rites, and so on)
Bretonnia (esp since their local rivals Southerners/Arabyans were cut out of the game)
WoC, too easy to play

Hopeful for? Monogod Norsca tribes such as Rotblood and Aesling. Not conservatively? For all the forgotten races and cultures: Amazons, Araby, Southern Realms, etc. (lol Malice from 40k as a monogod)

They kind of had the "Malice" faction in fantasy a long time ago. They were called the Knights of Malal, and they are basically a Chaos faction who hates chaos, and is on a seek and destroy crusade to destroy all other chaos factions. They were pretty wild, and I think they would be great.

These guys would be so hell bent on killing Chaos (4 marks OR undivided, they hate them all) that they would even ally with order factions if it meant winning and destroying the armies of the dark Gods.....Malal was a brother to the big four, who was rejected by them for whatever reason. They were popular when first brought out, then fizzled quickly because, well, they just werent supported well with minis and such.

They had a Chaos look to them, spiky and in all black and whatnot, but had a very different look aesthetically in other ways.

For example-

Malal chaos steeds-

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/1/18/Steed_of_Malal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20211127094629

Hunter daemons of Malal

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/1/1d/Greater_Daemon_of_Malal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20211127094629

Warbeast of Malal

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/2/2d/Beast_of_Malal.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20211127094627

And heres their faction leader, Kaleb Daark

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/3/37/Warhammer_Kaleb_Daark.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210224225845


They had a unique "Malal dragon" too, if I can find the original art I'll link it later. Cool faction.

Kind of a cool way someone who doesnt like Chao's motivations and ideologies but likes their look, can play a faction they can immerse with is what I have been told.

They lean towards evil (it IS a Chaos faction) but its about obsession with destroying chaos before all else for them.

[MrSoul]

Best: dark elves
Worst: every other faction

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by steelmidnight:

Originally posted by feillyne:

Most fun to play or easiest?

Easiest: Warriors of Chaos / particularly Valkia
Hardest: Greasus, Kugath, Boris Ursus

Best: all High Elves factions, you can manipulate diplo
2nd Best: Chaos Dorfs
Worst:
Empire (no imperial dwarf engineers, no festivals/rites, and so on)
Bretonnia (esp since their local rivals Southerners/Arabyans were cut out of the game)
WoC, too easy to play

Hopeful for? Monogod Norsca tribes such as Rotblood and Aesling. Not conservatively? For all the forgotten races and cultures: Amazons, Araby, Southern Realms, etc. (lol Malice from 40k as a monogod)

They kind of had the "Malice" faction in fantasy a long time ago. They were called the Knights of Malal, and they are basically a Chaos faction who hates chaos, and is on a seek and destroy crusade to destroy all other chaos factions. They were pretty wild, and I think they would be great.

These guys would be so hell bent on killing Chaos (4 marks OR undivided, they hate them all) that they would even ally with order factions if it meant winning and destroying the armies of the dark Gods.....Malal was a brother to the big four, who was rejected by them for whatever reason. They were popular when first brought out, then fizzled quickly because, well, they just werent supported well with minis and such.

They had a Chaos look to them, spiky and in all black and whatnot, but had a very different look aesthetically in other ways.

For example-

Malal chaos steeds-

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/1/18/Steed_of_Malal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20211127094629

Hunter daemons of Malal

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/1/1d/Greater_Daemon_of_Malal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20211127094629

Warbeast of Malal

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/2/2d/Beast_of_Malal.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20211127094627

And heres their faction leader, Kaleb Daark

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/3/37/Warhammer_Kaleb_Daark.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210224225845


They had a unique "Malal dragon" too, if I can find the original art I'll link it later. Cool faction.

Kind of a cool way someone who doesnt like Chao's motivations and ideologies but likes their look, can play a faction they can immerse with is what I have been told.

They lean towards evil (it IS a Chaos faction) but its about obsession with destroying chaos before all else for them.

Malal is in copyright hell, so CA cannot use him, or most of anything associated with him, just like GW does not.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Best: dark elves
Worst: every other faction

Morathi?











Morathi!

[KoboldUtopian]

Best: Bordeleaux (surprisingly) really good campaign pacing

Worst: Dwarfs or Lizards, I've played 1 campaign of each and have zero interest in ever going back

[Basarab Laiota]

Best Faction: LIZARDS! I LOVE DINOS THEY ARE SO COOL

Worst Faction: RATS! ♥♥♥♥ 'EM!!! I HATE RATS THEY ARE SO DUMB!!!

Hopeful for: CATHAY! THEIR UNIT ROSTER IS SO COOL I LOVE ALL OF IT (except those lame sky lanterns that do literally nothing) AND I WANT MORE UNITS TO PLAY WITH. Also their heroes kinda suck they definitely need another line of skills or something, I mostly just use their heroes to keep the Harmony in check.