Do Wulfhart's 4 Legendary Hunters lose Immortality upon confederating?

[Lampros]

That seems to have happened with me. Is this intended or a glitch?

[Elitewrecker PT]

Wouldn't be surprised, but it would be a bug.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Wouldn't be surprised, but it would be a bug.

I see; thanks!

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Level 20? They are not actually immortal just plebs.

They are not level 20. So would they get the immortality tag once they reach level 20? But they were always immortal from level 1 in WH2, if I recall correctly.

Addendum: There's also nothing in the skill tree that indicates that they become immortal at level 20.

[Elitewrecker PT]

They probably should be immortal from the start.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

They probably should be immortal from the start.

Yeah, that's how I remembered.

[BigRockWall]

Yes. They are immortal from turn 1. And remain Immortal when confederated. And I've confirmed they are not bugged, and actually do return after wounded. You can easily test this yourself using a mod to confederate them on turn 1.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by BigRockWall:

Yes. They are immortal from turn 1. And remain Immortal when confederated. And I've confirmed they are not bugged, and actually do return after wounded. You can easily test this yourself using a mod to confederate them on turn 1.

Okay; then it's probably a conflict with one of my 60 or so mods. Sigh...

[Tommytools]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by BigRockWall:

Yes. They are immortal from turn 1. And remain Immortal when confederated. And I've confirmed they are not bugged, and actually do return after wounded. You can easily test this yourself using a mod to confederate them on turn 1.

Okay; then it's probably a conflict with one of my 60 or so mods. Sigh...

Nope, its a bug that has been in the game since WH3 launch. Vlad/Isabella are not immortal in their hero form, any LL that is confederated loses their immortal tag too.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Tommytools:

Originally posted by Lampros:

Okay; then it's probably a conflict with one of my 60 or so mods. Sigh...

Nope, its a bug that has been in the game since WH3 launch. Vlad/Isabella are not immortal in their hero form, any LL that is confederated loses their immortal tag too.

Hmm, I am confused now. Someone said he tested it, and it worked as expected. So it's a bug that doesn't always appear but only occasionally so?

[Tommytools]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Tommytools:

Nope, its a bug that has been in the game since WH3 launch. Vlad/Isabella are not immortal in their hero form, any LL that is confederated loses their immortal tag too.

Hmm, I am confused now. Someone said he tested it, and it worked as expected. So it's a bug that doesn't always appear but only occasionally so?

I've had Gelt die permanently playing as Karl Franz, Isabella (hero form) as Vlad, Vlad and Isabella as Kemmler, Katarin died while playing Boris (in RoC) and CD LLs can die when confederated too.

The only test I see is a test with a confederation mod, which directly affects the confederation system, so its quite possible that that particular mod fixes the bug (whether intentionally or not).

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Tommytools:

Originally posted by Lampros:

Hmm, I am confused now. Someone said he tested it, and it worked as expected. So it's a bug that doesn't always appear but only occasionally so?

I've had Gelt die permanently playing as Karl Franz, Isabella (hero form) as Vlad, Vlad and Isabella as Kemmler, Katarin died while playing Boris (in RoC) and CD LLs can die when confederated too.

The only test I see is a test with a confederation mod, which directly affects the confederation system, so its quite possible that that particular mod fixes the bug (whether intentionally or not).

I see. Perhaps CA should can bug-fix more often ;)

[Tommytools]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Tommytools:

I've had Gelt die permanently playing as Karl Franz, Isabella (hero form) as Vlad, Vlad and Isabella as Kemmler, Katarin died while playing Boris (in RoC) and CD LLs can die when confederated too.

The only test I see is a test with a confederation mod, which directly affects the confederation system, so its quite possible that that particular mod fixes the bug (whether intentionally or not).

I see. Perhaps CA should can bug-fix more often ;)

I hope they fix it, I hate having to be extra careful with my confederated LLs :)

[BigRockWall]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Tommytools:

Nope, its a bug that has been in the game since WH3 launch. Vlad/Isabella are not immortal in their hero form, any LL that is confederated loses their immortal tag too.

Hmm, I am confused now. Someone said he tested it, and it worked as expected. So it's a bug that doesn't always appear but only occasionally so?

Isabella is subject to the bug. As well as the Chorf LLs I think. But the 4 hunters are not party to the same bug. I just tested the hunters and isabella with only the Confederate on turn 1 mod active, and can 100% confirm that the hunters are immortal when confederated, and Isabella is not.

Edit - unless that mod fixes the hunters but doesnt fix isabella, which seems unlikely.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Maybe the Community Bug Fix mod deals with what and he's also using it.

[Tommytools]

Originally posted by BigRockWall:

Edit - unless that mod fixes the hunters but doesnt fix isabella, which seems unlikely.

That does seem unlikely. Either way, the bug affects quite a few different factions, I suspect we don't hear about it that much because of how difficult it can be to get an AI to confederate in the current build.

I must admit I haven't tested the huntsman or his heroes when confederated, so the bug could be a specific thing for particular factions. That would make it harder to track down and fix unfortunately.