Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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Squipo May 18, 2023 @ 9:05am
Immortal empires is impossible
Just started immortal empires as ogre on normal difficulty. Turn 22 and 3 strongest factions started war against me and i lost the campaign. They were all stronger than me and they already had tier 3 units too. Is this campaign currently bugged or something?
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Barser May 18, 2023 @ 9:08am 
Play on easy until you learn the game. Maybe watch some youtube guide videos.
Zeek May 18, 2023 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by Squipo:
Is this campaign currently bugged or something?

No, it sounds like you're being too passive and letting everyone else build up faster than you.
pistalpug May 18, 2023 @ 9:30am 
This game really takes a while to learn the in and outs. Depends on your faction that you choose and who you are fighting. It takes a while to know what unit counters what. On the campaign map their is allot of tricks you can use to know how far the enemy army can travel what stance they are in, and how the terrain effects those bonus .

I really enjoy this game just don't like how the company somtimes gets greedy and doesn;t fix bugs.

The biggest suggestion is what he said above. Watch some you tube creators who have tips and tricks for factions. One thing this game does well is it has allot of depth to it. The one thing that it doesn't do well is have a in-depth guide on how all these things interact with each other.

They are doing blog posts now after game three, better late then never. The latest post with how terrain and height bonuses effect units.
Fear2288 May 18, 2023 @ 9:33am 
How exactly do you equate greed with bug fixing?
IonizedMercury May 18, 2023 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Squipo:
Just started immortal empires as ogre on normal difficulty. Turn 22 and 3 strongest factions started war against me and i lost the campaign. They were all stronger than me and they already had tier 3 units too. Is this campaign currently bugged or something?
You can easily have T3 units yourself by turn 22 with most factions.

This tells me it's a skill issue, especially with the lobotomized AI that barely ever pressures the player,
Ohio9 May 18, 2023 @ 9:41am 
One thing you'll find is that there are certain things in ME you absolute HAVE to do very fast, and if you don't, it might wreck your campaign. This can be frustrating because it isn't always clear what those things are from the start.

For example, in the Empire ME campaign, it's absolutely vital to wipe out the beastmen and nurgle very fast. But that isn't obvious because the beastmen aren't even visible at the start of the campaign, and the nurgle are so far away they don't seem like an immediate threat.

So really, it's all about finding those first few steps you need to do to secure your faction. And unless you want to look them up, it might take a failed campaign to do it.

And yes, as the others said, rapid expansion is very important. Try to keep expanding constantly. Don't slow down and let the other factions out-produce you. Even if you reach a point when you've got the strongest faction in the immediate area, and it seems like you are dominating, don't slow down. It might seem like a safe point to slow down and build up all your provinces before starting a new war to take more of them. But no, doing that will allow faraway factions to get really strong and eventually they will come for you.
Last edited by Ohio9; May 18, 2023 @ 9:44am
Mannfred is laughing. just 3? That long? Plunder the grimoires.
Emilia Tempest May 18, 2023 @ 10:26am 
Ogres are a hard to play faction, and they are also quite hated by auto resolve.
(Skrag the Slaughterer)Big boi with cauldron has a very difficult start as he has so many enemies around him.
(Greasus Goldtooth)Big boi on cart has an easier start as the area is more defendable.

I would recommend to play something like Cathay first instead (they have easy to use armies, good infantry to hold the line and missile units and artillery to do the damage, on top of plenty of spells).

As Miao Ying you have an easy time. While as Zhao Ming you have to do a bit of diplomacy with the local ogres (focus on Greasus Goldtooth).

If you somehow own the High Elves, play Tyrion instead, high elves are a very easy faction to get used to. they got a good early game army with spears and archers, while they are also on their own continent. (easier to handle as not many enemies come your way).
Bloodyboo12 May 18, 2023 @ 10:33am 
keep in mind that the AI is not designed to have an all out war, they are designed to ♥♥♥♥ you. The AI will stop fighting one another just to allow the closest enemy to you, to allocate all of their troops to focus you. Hence why you never see an AI faction get hit from behind while their entire force is on top of you.Its not a free for all, the AI is built to screw you.
Last edited by Bloodyboo12; May 18, 2023 @ 10:33am
DecayWolf May 18, 2023 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by pistalpug:
This game really takes a while to learn the in and outs. Depends on your faction that you choose and who you are fighting. It takes a while to know what unit counters what. On the campaign map their is allot of tricks you can use to know how far the enemy army can travel what stance they are in, and how the terrain effects those bonus .

I really enjoy this game just don't like how the company somtimes gets greedy and doesn;t fix bugs.

The biggest suggestion is what he said above. Watch some you tube creators who have tips and tricks for factions. One thing this game does well is it has allot of depth to it. The one thing that it doesn't do well is have a in-depth guide on how all these things interact with each other.

They are doing blog posts now after game three, better late then never. The latest post with how terrain and height bonuses effect units.

No really. I can have a very good grasp of any faction after reading it for the first time. Maybe even "master" in some cases, by just reading.

You'll need to know the buildings, your adjacent enemies, your expansion route, your units capabilities, their upkeep, therefore army composition efficiency ,etc.
The skill tree as well makes part of the planning. And equally obvious any unique faction mechanic must be understood before start playing, in order to focus on their strengths.

May take a minutes or even hours, but if you do this before actually starting playing the game, then you'll be able to beat legendary easily, or you could run blindly and get wrecked and complain afterwards, because you lost in a strategy game, because you used no strategy or planning whatsoever, whatever fits the boat,
Xaphnir May 18, 2023 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Zeek:
Originally posted by Squipo:
Is this campaign currently bugged or something?

No, it sounds like you're being too passive and letting everyone else build up faster than you.

OP said turn 22
TRBC-97M May 18, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
Its not bugged, you just suck ( for now ) Learn the game, more, watch videos, or try another faction.
I'm not saying that you suck in order to be mean, I actually mean it, I used to suck at the game too, then I played more, and I realized that the game is actually very easy when you know how it works.

Immortal Empires is definitely not impossible, its actually easier than the other campaign on many aspects.

Good luck in your adventure brother, you do not suck forever, don't worry :)

P.S: Ogres are not really good anyway (except in SFO mod) try something else.
Captain Baldy May 18, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Barser:
Play on easy until you learn the game. Maybe watch some youtube guide videos.
:steamthis:
We all started somewhere and we know how it feels but like anything - keep going at it to get better
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977170743.
Last edited by Captain Baldy; May 18, 2023 @ 12:05pm
if it makes sense and it probly dont, you are supposed to lose like you did, and then that is why you play again, to wonder how why you lost

really, if you won from the get go, it would be too easy, and you would have nothing to learn

right? if you dont like that.. its not for you.. but thats simple elementary
Zeek May 18, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Xaphnir:
Originally posted by Zeek:

No, it sounds like you're being too passive and letting everyone else build up faster than you.

OP said turn 22

What about it?

By turn 22 you should generally have your starting area secured and start fielding some of your better tier 2 and 3 units.

It would also help to know which Ogre he's playing as well as the "Strong" factions that killed him.
Last edited by Zeek; May 18, 2023 @ 12:12pm
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