Single entity monsters charge

[Sanitaizer]

Why can't they act like a charriot? I mean, having to give attack order on the unit behind the unit you want to damage - looks clunky

[Cyiel]

You shouldn't do that with chariots either. And SIM are supposed to stay in combat so i don't really understand what you try to do here.

[Ashardalon]

you can just charge into the unit you want to damage
and then click past
atleast if you only want the collision damage instead of real damage

[Sanitaizer]

Originally posted by Cyiel:

You shouldn't do that with chariots either.

Chatiots act normal - you give attack order and they charge through, while, let's say - N'Kari runs on his Barry Slaanen speed towards unit, let's say, peasant mob and than suddenly stops right in front of them and kills 3 of them. But if you'll choose unit behind this peasant mob - he will kill half of them. It's complain about how this mechanic is clunky, not OP.

[Cyiel]

Originally posted by Shahfi:

Originally posted by Cyiel:

You shouldn't do that with chariots either.

Chatiots act normal - you give attack order and they charge through, while, let's say - N'Kari runs on his Barry Slaanen speed towards unit, let's say, peasant mob and than suddenly stops right in front of them and kills 3 of them. But if you'll choose unit behind this peasant mob - he will kill half of them. It's complain about how this mechanic is clunky, not OP.

Nope if you choose a good target for your chariots they shouldn't be stuck in melee. You are supposed, like Ashardalon said, give an attack order then when they are in contact give a move order to pull them out of the melee. If they are stuck that's because you tried to charge trough a deep formation or high mass units (cavalry, monstrous infantry), or it's a mod problem. So it's not clunky, chariots are units that need a deeper comprehension of the system.

For SIM they are not supposed to be played like chariots. They charge and they wreck havoc. Some a great against infantry, some against large. You can also use "concentration of force" tactic where you use your SIM to charge trough your own after your frontline is in melee.

[Sanitaizer]

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Nope if you choose a good target for your chariots they shouldn't be stuck in melee. You are supposed, like Ashardalon said, give an attack order then when they are in contact give a move order to pull them out of the melee. If they are stuck that's because you tried to charge trough a deep formation or high mass units (cavalry, monstrous infantry), or it's a mod problem. So it's not clunky, chariots are units that need a deeper comprehension of the system.

For SIM they are not supposed to be played like chariots. They charge and they wreck havoc. Some a great against infantry, some against large. You can also use "concentration of force" tactic where you use your SIM to charge trough your own after your frontline is in melee. [/quote]
Either my english is that bad, or you just misunderstood me. I know how chariots work, I know about giving move order. I'm saying that N'kari for example, don't charge THROUGH, he stops right in front of a unit and slams his sword into the ground. I'm not even talking about blob situation. With chariot - I can give attack order and it will charge through, yeah, if I will not give move order it will stuck after initial charge, but that's not my point. What I am trying to say - big single entity monsters charge is devastating only if you have 2 (or more) units staying close to each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzw0D48LzTQ just watch.