What exactly was Storm of Chaos?

[Green Raven]

The way I understand it, this game is set right before The End Times, which cannonicly ends with a victory for Chaos, and sets up Age of Sigmar.

But Storm of Chaos ended with Chaos losing the End Times invasion? So... some alternate timeline? A video game? A book series?

[Zeek]

Storm of chaos isn't considered canon iirc.

It was replaced with The End Times

[Blladentine01]

Storm of chaos was considered by the warhammer community the best thing in years but GW decided to ignore it and with they;r End times age of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ version instead.It consisted a story about 4 brothers each turning to 1 chaos god for example Tamurkhan for nurgle(the only 1 release so far)but like i said there were supposed to be 4

[SBA77]

It was a tournament GW held in which the results, outcomes of IRL Warhammer matches, would affect the actual story of the setting. The story goes that the Chaos players got their asses kicked so badly that GW decided to go with the End Times instead.

[Green Raven]

Originally posted by SBA77:

It was a tournament GW held in which the results, outcomes of IRL Warhammer matches, would affect the actual story of the setting. The story goes that the Chaos players got their asses kicked so badly that GW decided to go with the End Times instead.

When did this happen?

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Green Raven:

Originally posted by SBA77:

It was a tournament GW held in which the results, outcomes of IRL Warhammer matches, would affect the actual story of the setting. The story goes that the Chaos players got their asses kicked so badly that GW decided to go with the End Times instead.

When did this happen?

Not sure, years ago I think. Honestly I never saw it myself, just heard Warhammer fans commenting about it online once.

Also there's this.[whfb.lexicanum.com]

[Metal Izanagi]

Storm of Chaos was a big Warhammer Fantasy event where GW as usual didn't think things through, and decided to have the results of real-life tabletop games influence the story as it played out with players registering the results of their games on a website. The Chaos side of the campaign got trashed because Chaos was a bit weak in the edition of the game the campaign took place in.

[Green Raven]

That sounds pretty cool!

But that's basically what this game is, right? The start of the End Times, everything coming to a head.

Storm of Chaos is one possible outcome; Age of Sigmar is another.

[Velber]

Originally posted by Green Raven:

That sounds pretty cool!

But that's basically what this game is, right? The start of the End Times, everything coming to a head.

Storm of Chaos is one possible outcome; Age of Sigmar is another.

This game is not like the actual end times story, the game is pretty much it’s very own version of the end times

[Sir Harlz]

If I remember correctly one of the reasons it was non-cannoned is because greenskins were very popular at the time and they ended up basically taking over the world and curb-stomping everyone and for whatever reason GW didn't want a storyline with Greenskins as the main enemy.

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Storm of chaos isn't considered canon iirc.

It was replaced with The End Times

Technically it's considered an alt time line, like these games. That way, depending on your setting, anything can be canon from your perspective.

I feel though this wasn't so much a move an inspiration from stuff like Battletech where the diff time periods have clearly defined rules, yet ultimately all same mechs etc(unless talking post clan)

Also:
"There is no canon. There's a variety of sources, many of which conflict, but every single one is a lens through which we can see the 40K setting."(talking 40k, but i'd argue it tracks)
-- 'Dead Blue Clown' [Aaron Dembski-Bowden]
https://philipsibbering.com/warhammer/gw-canon/

[Kaede]

orrrrr your me and could care less about what is canon or not in warhammer. dudes.... its warhammer. It doesnt even know whats canon or not. Chaos doesnt win in my eyes (as that is just so boring and lazy of an outcome) war is still going and age of sigmar is its own thing.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Green Raven:

The way I understand it, this game is set right before The End Times, which cannonicly ends with a victory for Chaos, and sets up Age of Sigmar.

But Storm of Chaos ended with Chaos losing the End Times invasion? So... some alternate timeline? A video game? A book series?

Storm of Chaos was an Alternate Ending chosen by the community where Order ended up Wining against Chaos.

Then GW Retconned it because they wanted to bring out Age of Sigmar so they Created The End Times instead and Threw Storm of Chaos under a bus.

[Hedge Wizard]

Necrobumping here, but;

Storm of Chaos ran around 2007, it was, as some have said, a narrative campaign that was decided through submitted battle reports.
The End Times was basically a rehash of it, especially the early events, which were almost the same blow for blow.
The difference in Storm of Chaos is that thanks to the Chaos lists being wank, Archaon got stalled at like, Praag or something, and the combined might of Orcs and Goblins players (who were only peripherally involved in the event's story anyway) lead to a surprise upset, wherein Grimgor Ironhide, of all people (If you can call Orcs "people" as such) came out of left field and ♥♥♥♥-slapped Archaon into the ground, thus inadvertantly saving the world.

This was too fun for the people running the franchise, and after a limp bit of continuation with a scramble for Nagash's "Crown of Sorcery", they decided to retcon the whole thing to before the SOC event, and then basically re-ran it, but with no player input as "The End Times" later.

Personally, I'm of the mind that SOC is the "real" canon. event.
No, I don't very much care what the current license holders have to say on the matter, because their names aren't Andy Chambers or Bryan Ansell.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Hedge Wizard:

Personally, I'm of the mind that SOC is the "real" canon. event.

Well who wouldn't like Grimgor backstabbing Archaeon, beating the crap out of him, and then proclaiming "Grimgor iz da best!"while Archaeon and his army quietly run away ;)

[Reaver79]

Originally posted by Green Raven:

When did this happen?

Early/mid 6'th edition

Originally posted by SBA77:

Well who wouldn't like Grimgor backstabbing Archaeon, beating the crap out of him and, then proclaiming "Grimgor iz da best!"while Archaeon and his army quietly run away ;)

He could not even beat Crom in a fair fight, even with all his power items, pathetic orc..