Is the changeling as powerful as skarbrand in the lore?

[Puppet Pal Clem]

A guy who can transform into anything and copy all their powers and strengths is OP as hell. How powerful is the changeling in the lore?

[Garatgh Deloi]

Well... The changeling's power in combat isn't really a focus in the lore so it's limits is kinda unknown.

He does on occasion fight, for example he might take the form of a enemy warrior and fight them as their own reflection. So he can mimic the fighting style and power of others to some degree, but i doubt he would actually be able to mimic the power of, for example, a greater deamon like Skarbrand.

If he could perfectly mimic the power of anything he could transform into he would be OP as ♥♥♥♥ since he can literally turn into Khorne, Nurgle and Slaanesh (the only chaos god he can't mimic is Tzeentch).

[Triple G]

Not as strong as Grimgor. According to the lore he is "da best", the "one true git", the "green slaughterer". Not Skarbrand "the drinker of blood" or Changeling "Perplexing Prankster" - what are these names? According to the lore, one is some kind of alcoholic, and the other some kind of jester. And then there is "da Boss of the East", "da Alpha Orc", "Gorks Fist" - the "once and future git". Says everything - lore wise. Speaks volumes...

[chipofsalt]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Well... The changeling's power in combat isn't really a focus in the lore so it's limits is kinda unknown.

He does on occasion fight, for example he might take the form of a enemy warrior and fight them as their own reflection. So he can mimic the fighting style and power of others to some degree, but i doubt he would actually be able to mimic the power of, for example, a greater deamon like Skarbrand.

If he could perfectly mimic the power of anything he could transform into he would be OP as ♥♥♥♥ since he can literally turn into Khorne, Nurgle and Slaanesh (the only chaos god he can't mimic is Tzeentch).

No, he's definitely canonically able to mimic greater daemons.

It's true that his true strength isn't in combat though. The changeling is known for scheming and causing conflicts in both the realm of chaos and the mortal realm.

He jokes about Khorne's throne in the campaign map, and that is referring to a time where he placed nurglings on his throne which pretty much exploded when Khorne sat down. It started a conflict between him and Nurgle.

Like other daemons of chaos factions, quite a bit of this is borrowed from 40k.

edit: there are only two forms he can't transform into - his original form and Tzeentch.

[MrSoul]

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[Falaris]

The changeling is as powerful as Skarbrand at lvl 1.
The changeling's skill tree lets him get some stat buffs, BUT they are not as good as a normal skill tree, and it does not include unique items. Changeling lvl 30 vs Skarbrand lvl 30, there will be a blue puff of smoke.

The real advantage is in abilities like festus' mortis engine effect, or healing aura. However, I am not sure of his excact limitations on copying ability.

In the TT rules - the changeling copies one weapon and its attack stats belonging to an infantry unit, and nothing else. So, the TWWH3 changeling is quite a bit better at copying, but also way more expensive. In lore, strength is according to plot, really, and often inconsistent, so a bad measure of actual strength. IMHO.

[ArchAnge1LT]

Skarbrand would slap everyone in the lore and in the stats in TT. No competition. Sadly, this is not translated, he should do like 800 dmg and have 80 attack.

[Falaris]

Originally posted by ArchAnge1LT:

Skarbrand would slap everyone in the lore and in the stats in TT. No competition. Sadly, this is not translated, he should do like 800 dmg and have 80 attack.

There's not many that are a close match to Skarbrand in tabletop, but there are a few. Imrik's pretty close, e.g; it would be very much decided based on who attacked first. (If Imrik attacked first, Skarbrand would lose enough attacks that he would lose the fight; Imrik has more weapons so wouldn't be as weakened by losing a few claw attacks, but to be fair, noone survives round 2 with Skarbrand.

Also, when Skarbrand gets going he has 1.4k weapon strength or more, your 'he should have 800' is kind of a nerf. :)