How the hell is reikland a beginner campain

[Moon Guy]

Turn 15

Festus has 2 full armies in middenland

The black pit tribe has 2 armies nord of weismund

Vlad has conquered Stirland

Kemmler has 2 full armies in Marienburg

Durthu has already declared war to Wissenland

How the ♥♥♥♥ do I even play it?

[Darklordnj]

Originally posted by Tunguska:

It's not for beginners; CA just wants you to have a "premium" experience, so they claim it is.

Maybe play Tyrion or something? You know, the High Elf recommended lord.

Ehhh, it’s more like they add stuff/make changes but never bother to change start difficulty recommendations/difficulty descriptions.

[StrangeAK47]

tbh this patch black pit and kemmler seem more aggressive.
usually i go for beastmen, then fetus,

black pit i usually just finish them off but they have been more aggressive and i had to go after them before fetus during my last camp

after that if kemmlar has started moving towards me i will go smash him early, then turn my attentions to vlad

Durthu shouldnt bother you really if you dont bother him, but i dont try befriending anyone other than the golden order really so just watch who you make dip pacts with

so my last short camp i did:
beastmen
black pit (gave some of the land away to nordland to avoid northern conflict)
fetus
kemmler and the red duke (gave the land away for strong relations with bret also helped with welfs for some reason)
then vald

[Man of Culture]

They did not take into consideration the updates they made to the campaign. In Warhammer 1 and 2 Reikland was probably an easier faction to play considering it wasn't neckdeep in chaos. Warhammer 3 is a different story because Reikland is surrounded by things that hate them and hurt them and their units are incredibly basic and you can't really brute force your way to victory until you get much more powerful units way later. So that SHOULD be updated but it isn't. If new players are looking for optimal new campaign experiences the factions to go to would be Cathay and most of the chaos factions.

[Jerroser]

Initially when WH1 was released and Reikland was one of its main playable factions it was one of the simpler more straight forward campaigns. But since then they first had the Elector Counts mechanic added in which mostly just made the campaign slightly more challenging and then a lot more major enemies were also added such as Festus and Drycha making it even harder.

[[CT] Forced Jaketh]

It was a good beginner faction in WH1 maybe but since all the new stuff around it, empire gets a huge amount of stuff to deal with and nothing to compensate. You'll need to wait for a paid DLC to fix that like CoC. I think they said if a campaign is unplayable like Nakai or broken or too hard you should just play another faction. I hear if you buy the new DLC The Changling campaign literally cannot be lost. So you'll never get rid of the Changling in the empire.

[[CT] Forced Jaketh]

Think of it like the Empire gets to have its own end times right from the start with all the demons inside the Empire and on its borders, even though the actual everchosen is miles away but lol ♥♥♥♥ logic

[BenShinobi]

what difficulty settings? Can't say I've had it scale up like that to me before. I have seen those things you mention happen, just not all at once.

My general strat is to deal with festus first & make sure Middenland doesn't fall. Then by that time I'd have hoped to have confederated Talabecland to have a territory to strike into Stirland and push the vampires back. Vampire counts armies can either be extremely powerful or like wet paper. Defeating the LL army is often a defeat that takes them a while to bounce back from and they resort to having chaff-filled armies that are easily manageable. Once you can get a second army and have more or less stabilised the empire factions adjacent to you things should be secure enough.

In my experience Kemmler often gets defeated by himself but maybe the changes have left him more powerful. I'm aware they randomise some elements of ai decision-making on campaign start now so ai factions will perform better/worse each new campaign. Maybe your situation is just unlucky rng.

Durthu is only a problem for his near regions and defeating his LL army should leave any settlements he's taken as easy pickings.

In my opinion you should always grant settlements back to the original owner to avoid having to sink your own cash into developing the provinces. You get plenty of opportunities to confederate later, but early game you want to assist the empire ai factions as much as possible as that'll lead to so many more friendly armies about the place.

[Moon Guy]

Originally posted by BenShinobi:

what difficulty settings? Can't say I've had it scale up like that to me before. I have seen those things you mention happen, just not all at once.

My general strat is to deal with festus first & make sure Middenland doesn't fall. Then by that time I'd have hoped to have confederated Talabecland to have a territory to strike into Stirland and push the vampires back. Vampire counts armies can either be extremely powerful or like wet paper. Defeating the LL army is often a defeat that takes them a while to bounce back from and they resort to having chaff-filled armies that are easily manageable. Once you can get a second army and have more or less stabilised the empire factions adjacent to you things should be secure enough.

In my experience Kemmler often gets defeated by himself but maybe the changes have left him more powerful. I'm aware they randomise some elements of ai decision-making on campaign start now so ai factions will perform better/worse each new campaign. Maybe your situation is just unlucky rng.

Durthu is only a problem for his near regions and defeating his LL army should leave any settlements he's taken as easy pickings.

In my opinion you should always grant settlements back to the original owner to avoid having to sink your own cash into developing the provinces. You get plenty of opportunities to confederate later, but early game you want to assist the empire ai factions as much as possible as that'll lead to so many more friendly armies about the place.

I'm playing on hard mode and I have over 500 hours between tww2 and tww3 only on the empire. Thanks for the advice!

[bearfieldlee]

Originally posted by Man of Culture:

They did not take into consideration the updates they made to the campaign. In Warhammer 1 and 2 Reikland was probably an easier faction to play considering it wasn't neckdeep in chaos. Warhammer 3 is a different story because Reikland is surrounded by things that hate them and hurt them and their units are incredibly basic and you can't really brute force your way to victory until you get much more powerful units way later. So that SHOULD be updated but it isn't. If new players are looking for optimal new campaign experiences the factions to go to would be Cathay and most of the chaos factions.

The winter update includes an Empire rework, although we will have to see just how extensive it is....

[Draconic Creature]

Originally posted by bearfieldlee:

Originally posted by Man of Culture:

They did not take into consideration the updates they made to the campaign. In Warhammer 1 and 2 Reikland was probably an easier faction to play considering it wasn't neckdeep in chaos. Warhammer 3 is a different story because Reikland is surrounded by things that hate them and hurt them and their units are incredibly basic and you can't really brute force your way to victory until you get much more powerful units way later. So that SHOULD be updated but it isn't. If new players are looking for optimal new campaign experiences the factions to go to would be Cathay and most of the chaos factions.

The winter update includes an Empire rework, although we will have to see just how extensive it is....

Given how 'extensive' the changes for Kislev were, I don't have high hopes for that.

[Man of Culture]

Originally posted by bearfieldlee:

Originally posted by Man of Culture:

They did not take into consideration the updates they made to the campaign. In Warhammer 1 and 2 Reikland was probably an easier faction to play considering it wasn't neckdeep in chaos. Warhammer 3 is a different story because Reikland is surrounded by things that hate them and hurt them and their units are incredibly basic and you can't really brute force your way to victory until you get much more powerful units way later. So that SHOULD be updated but it isn't. If new players are looking for optimal new campaign experiences the factions to go to would be Cathay and most of the chaos factions.

The winter update includes an Empire rework, although we will have to see just how extensive it is....

They have a lot of ways to improve the experience that's for sure. From the political system all the way down to the skill trees and building trees.

[BenShinobi]

Originally posted by Lusty Femboy Maid:

I'm playing on hard mode and I have over 500 hours between tww2 and tww3 only on the empire. Thanks for the advice!

Fair enough. Seems to me the most likely thing is the changes to ai behaviour that have thrown up some unusual results then. Hopefully wont be the same every playthrough. I've yet to try Empire since the update & thought the biggest thing to worry about would be the addition of the Changeling in the region. Apparently not!

[Moon Guy]

Update:

I managed to save the situation (sorta). After extensive use of cheats, save scumming, cheesing... I savaged what I could. Festus is destroyed, I signed a non aggression pact with kemmler by giving him eilhart (I had to), the orcs were kept at bay by Marienburg and Vlad was distracted by Drycha. I'm planning to kick Kemmler's ass and then sieging down Sylvania. It's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stressful and difficult. The empire definetly needs some love.

[Moon Guy]

Originally posted by BenShinobi:

Originally posted by Lusty Femboy Maid:

I'm playing on hard mode and I have over 500 hours between tww2 and tww3 only on the empire. Thanks for the advice!

Fair enough. Seems to me the most likely thing is the changes to ai behaviour that have thrown up some unusual results then. Hopefully wont be the same every playthrough. I've yet to try Empire since the update & thought the biggest thing to worry about would be the addition of the Changeling in the region. Apparently not!

From my experience the changling is chill. He's camping in Stirland and spreading tzeench corruption like crazy.

[jtordoff]

Even on Normal/Normal it is painful and I was hoping for a chill campaign to see how the game has evolved.