They forgot to change Kairos' skill tree [INSANE]

[True Lord BachusPL The Great]

Basically they removed the ability to see enemy's intentions, while playing as Tzeentch, since 4.0.... BUT THEY FORGOT TO CHANGE THE KAIROS' SKILL THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE IT FOR FREE. SO ESSENTIALLY KAIROS HAS A SKILL THAT DOES NOTHING.
PREMIUM DLC BTW.
Don't believe me? Check it yourself.

[True Lord BachusPL The Great]

We need to post this on their forum and hope that they fix this, because I'm playing as Kairos right now.

[Emilia Tempest]

Also, the best feature added is "Force Peace".
Which does jack all to help you!

You can only Force Peace between one AI faction and another.
Where is the use for that besides the player getting trolled beyond space and time?
I dont know either!
Not like you have any allies near you as Kairos, youre like, the furthest from any kind of "friend" a faction could be. Hell even all the skaven factions that are hated by everyone have closer friends.

Something I was hyped for, using Force Peace against Oxyotle to slow his advance down, is now impossible to do!


They also made the Changing of Ways very finiky with selecting yourself as the target race, if you swtich off of your race and then try to get back on it, the game just doesnt let you. So you have to go out of hte menu and back to have you as the default race again.


Also, they showed in the trailer for the update that the 1st Unholy Manifistation gives 125 grims a turn, and as reward 250. (the trailer that was released as the patch went live btw.)
Yet in game (and in the patchnotes) it says "20% extra grims from post-battle loot" and that for 5 turns...
At the very least you get tons of quests that give grims so early game its not too bad, but this change literally changed nothing in terms on how you use this.
You recruit a lord, yeet it on the enemy territory, put the thing on him, wait 2 turns, disband.
Now you can at least run away, but lets be real its easy as hell to find a spot to not get attacked in two turns.

Also the two landmarks Kairos get are pretty crap too and way too late for what they do. You even lose out on money if you build that T3 landmark at that port city because the other building gives more money, or if you go with the one that boosts building income you get more net-money from that (even if its just 15%).

Though the quality of life to the winds of magic manipulation is neat. Dont know why this feature took them 18 months to bring in the game, but credit where credit is due.

So for Kairos, nearly nothing has changed at how you play his campaign. Amazing race update.

[Wintersend]

To be fair, you can now just throw the grimoire gain manifestation on your main army and its fine, partially move into enemy territory, activate it, take settlement. You now have the status and it doesn't go away for no longer being in enemy territory.

And well, you are Kairos, even the cost you should be more than making back just from existing. It makes the 20% gain not totally irrelevant and saves some money.

[Many-Named]

Publicado originalmente por Filthy Pollo:

What's Kairos' skill?

No offense man, but you very often seem to be clueless about what we are discussing. Do you even play the game? I know you own it but do you actually play it?

And please stop with every second reply of yours being ''this is not relevant'' ''this makes no sense''. You already seem completely confused and clueless most of the time, and it's not helping you make sense when you try to gaslight others into confusion.

Again, no offense meant. Just...I don't know, think before you post or something? It's okay if we don't agree with each other but at least try to make a little bit of sense.

Thanks man. We still love you.

[Many-Named]

Publicado originalmente por a mite of Nurgle:

och it's only big bird - best thing he can do is turn over for more basting and make turkey noises when done to a turn :WH3_nurgling:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029406765

lol

[Atomsk]

I wonder if CA devs ever heard of Impact Analysis... one of the most basic concepts in software development .

Hopefully this gets fixed sooner than 6 months.

[genericwhitemale]

lol someone predicted this when they announced that change. Cant remember who it was but well done

[Triple G]

Publicado originalmente por Arti_Sel:

They "fixed" that one by removing the notifications. So more like swept it under the rug. Idk about the rest of your questions.

Hmm - hopefully they also removed the icon above the characters, but it´s probably connected to the notifications. I thought the elegant solution would be to adjust the amount of skillpoints for these characters so they only get like 37 or whatever, or add one or two passive skills for those which do minor things. Thanks for the answer though. Appreciate it. ;o)

[[ICM] Keyser Söze]

The skills is working on the new borrow time stuff instead

[capybaras are cool]

Publicado originalmente por genericwhitemale:

lol someone predicted this when they announced that change. Cant remember who it was but well done

its sort of like predicting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.

[Doug Dimmadong]

Well Tzeentch did get a MASSIVE rework. It's only normal that a small family business like CA would over look such basic QA.

[Puggly the Grey]

Publicado originalmente por Atomsk:

I wonder if CA devs ever heard of Impact Analysis... one of the most basic concepts in software development :KingBean:.

Hopefully this gets fixed sooner than 6 months.

I can see it now, the Thrones of Decay patch notes will likely include “Replaced Kairos’ defunct skill with a more relevant one.”

Only it’ll turn out that the new skill doesn’t do anything either, just for entirely different reasons.

[Atomsk]

I don't understand how the same careless mistakes are made again and again.

[GeoG85]

Confederating Changeling as Kairos was fun. Can get a Strong Saraetel the EverWatcher to boot.

[Puggly the Grey]

Publicado originalmente por Atomsk:

I don't understand how the same careless mistakes are made again and again.

It’s pretty simple really, CA’s dev team for wh3 is underfunded, overworked, and understaffed.

SEGA has forced CA to move most of their devs to the Hyena’s team because they’re silly billy trend chasers.