Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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Paro Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:01pm
(Coming from WH1) Is Lighting Strike worth it anymore with all these changes to sieges?
I've been getting lightning strike most games and finding it ALMOST useless now (level 3).

The reason is because minor settlements no longer have walls, I don't find myself in a situation where 2 stacks of enemies are besieging something and I can rush in and lightning strike one stack. That was the most common use case for me in Wh1.

In WH3, Lightning strike basically now requires you to find enemies on the open field which is really hard to do.
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SBA77 Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
Well it'll probably still be useful on higher difficulties and during the Endgame Crises where the has AI crap tons of armies and swarms everything with them. And honestly that's when Lighting Strike was most useful and why it was so good, AI's spammed armies one at a time and not getting overwhelmed by their hordes.
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Farsha Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:06pm 
It's still a must on higher difficulties where you see like 5 stacks parked next to each other.
With Lightning strike you can clear them easily one by one.

But it depends on your race and play style.
High value army races still use it a lot.
If you build crap stacks with greenskins, undead or scaven you don't need it that much.
Man of Culture Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
If you play on any difficulty above Hard you'll probably want it. Higher difficulties you will find the AI rolling around the map with two or three armies fairly close to each other, or armies sitting next to cities recruiting.
SqkaStxppvh Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Man of Culture:
If you play on any difficulty above Hard you'll probably want it. Higher difficulties you will find the AI rolling around the map with two or three armies fairly close to each other, or armies sitting next to cities recruiting.
This
Judge Dread Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:49pm 
It's still 100% worth it. It's just not as OP as it was without the debuffs lightning now gives.
SpeaksTooFast Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:57pm 
I find it is not terribly useful early game unless you plan to fight greenskins. Opting out of the Waaaagh stack is super nice.

I do often come around to it later, especially if expecting to fight an end game crisis or powerful opponent but I normally already have the blue line finished by that point and at most put one point in it on my first pass.
Emilia Tempest Jun 14, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
With how little the ai throws at you in this game (compared to game 2), lightning strike nearly never is important.
Playing on Very hard campaign I have nearly never seen the ai put up two armies (barring the skaven that spam stacks of skavenslaves.. interesting choice..).
I only ever see one army, or an army in a settlement and lightning strike doesnt help there.

However, against greenskins lightning strike is still amazing as you can deny their WAGH army. So for races that start near an major greenskin faction it is consider-worthy to get that skill.

One thing it helps at is dealing with the end game crisis, but then again is it really worth it to invest a whole 3 skill points just for that?

Overall, its not worth it to get lightning strike as the ai does not tend to build enough armies to make it worthwhile. There are two niche scenarios where its really great, but besides that its a waste of 3 skillpoints (which could be used for other skills).


Maybe on legendary its different, but on very hard certainly not.
Ashley Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:12pm 
Still a must. AI likes to hide in it's settlements with multiple armies outside of it or go around with multiple armies
Pooh Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:39pm 
I think it's balanced now.
Lampros Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:39pm 
Stupid question.
Pooh Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Lampros:
Stupid question.

No, it's not. Don't be rude, dude.
Paro Jun 14, 2023 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by Lampros:
Stupid question.


Stupid answer
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