Total War: WARHAMMER III

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cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 6:33am
Daemons of Nurgle vs WoC Festus faction differences?
Is there any othere difference other than building cycles and the main lord?. I see they both have the same chaos warriors, daemons and the infection mechanics too. I see that festus have a passive life regeneration for units around that can be activated. Does daemons of nurgle have that?
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Aleera Aug 5, 2023 @ 6:40am 
No. But Daemons of Nurgle get the tankiest lord that exists ingame. With obscene hp and healing powers for itself.

Their plagues are better. They can instantly recruit highest tier unit's easily.

Their dynamics are completely different.
UrbanMech Aug 5, 2023 @ 7:01am 
Unless it changed I think WoC doesn't get plague toads.
R131 Aug 5, 2023 @ 9:32am 
WoC-Festus deamon prince are straight up better, they get 3 decent extra perks for doing certain actions and they can get 3 different magic school passives if you start them off as metal sorcerers.
WoC-Festus also get nurgle marked Aspiring champions which are very reliable t3 monstrous infantry and their recruitment system is better and garrisons much better.
WoC can also spend souls to get very powerful army and campaign buffs.

Nurgle-Kugath get a few extra active abilities for great unclean ones which can be fun but they are lackluster because they just die in rapid fashion to ranged units and melee units. Nurgle-Kugath can also spawn special cultist units that are used to inflict plagues on armies or settlements with 100% chance, and also get access to double attrition plague.
Nurgle Kugath can also get Cultists as an army hero on a Warshrine mount, which is pretty cool because you can then use magic items to make the warshrine actually viable in battle.
Imposter Aug 5, 2023 @ 9:36am 
One thing a person cant have as Festus: You cannot have Exalted Plague Bearers, except the RoR version. This i think because the tech doesnt exist to enable Exalted Plague Bearers.

I think it is bugged.
Last edited by Imposter; Aug 5, 2023 @ 9:37am
Garatgh Deloi Aug 5, 2023 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by cybx:
Is there any othere difference other than building cycles and the main lord?. I see they both have the same chaos warriors, daemons and the infection mechanics too. I see that festus have a passive life regeneration for units around that can be activated. Does daemons of nurgle have that?

Other then the stuff you mentioned i'd argue that the main difference is that Warriors of Chaos and Nurgle play completely differently. Warriors of Chaos being a very strong sort of semi horde army, while Nurgle has its own thing going with its cycling settlements and other weirdness.

They may have mostly the same units (there are exceptions, Festus don't have every Nurgle unit and Nurgle can't get undivided units) but Festus have a limit on the amount of deamon units he can have and recruits them using a special mechanic (The units being called "gifted units" for warrior of chaos).

Festus also can't get some of the Nurgle heroes and lords (Specifically the Plague Cultist & Plagueridden heroes. And the Herald of Nurgle & Great Unclean one lords).

Then we have completely different starting locations.

Then we have a ton of minor differences as well like differences in the plagues and the like.

To said, the general consensus seem to be that Festus is more fun (The "Nurgle" army being rather slow at its campaign buildup, having a somewhat tricky start and many seems to dislike this).
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Aug 5, 2023 @ 1:37pm
cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Rianne:
No. But Daemons of Nurgle get the tankiest lord that exists ingame. With obscene hp and healing powers for itself.

Their plagues are better. They can instantly recruit highest tier unit's easily.

Their dynamics are completely different.
Nice to know that
cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by GhostBear:
Unless it changed I think WoC doesn't get plague toads.
Interesting. I thought the get all the same units
cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Satire Incarnate:
WoC-Festus deamon prince are straight up better, they get 3 decent extra perks for doing certain actions and they can get 3 different magic school passives if you start them off as metal sorcerers.
WoC-Festus also get nurgle marked Aspiring champions which are very reliable t3 monstrous infantry and their recruitment system is better and garrisons much better.
WoC can also spend souls to get very powerful army and campaign buffs.

Nurgle-Kugath get a few extra active abilities for great unclean ones which can be fun but they are lackluster because they just die in rapid fashion to ranged units and melee units. Nurgle-Kugath can also spawn special cultist units that are used to inflict plagues on armies or settlements with 100% chance, and also get access to double attrition plague.
Nurgle Kugath can also get Cultists as an army hero on a Warshrine mount, which is pretty cool because you can then use magic items to make the warshrine actually viable in battle.
Nice, but what about health regeneration difference between both?
cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Blasted:
One thing a person cant have as Festus: You cannot have Exalted Plague Bearers, except the RoR version. This i think because the tech doesnt exist to enable Exalted Plague Bearers.

I think it is bugged.
hum, :lunar2020thinkingtiger: i stil haven't get one of those yet :D
cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:
Originally posted by cybx:
Is there any othere difference other than building cycles and the main lord?. I see they both have the same chaos warriors, daemons and the infection mechanics too. I see that festus have a passive life regeneration for units around that can be activated. Does daemons of nurgle have that?

Other then the stuff you mentioned i'd argue that the main difference is that Warriors of Chaos and Nurgle play completely differently. Warriors of Chaos being a very strong sort of semi horde army, while Nurgle has its own thing going with its cycling settlements and other weirdness.

They may have mostly the same units (there are exceptions, Festus don't have every Nurgle unit and Nurgle can't get undivided units) but Festus have a limit on the amount of deamon units he can have and recruits them using a special mechanic (The units being called "gifted units" for warrior of chaos).

Festus also can't get some of the Nurgle heroes and lords (Specifically the Plague Cultist & Plagueridden heroes. And the Herald of Nurgle & Great Unclean one lords).

Then we have completely different starting locations.

Then we have a ton of minor differences as well like differences in the plagues and the like.

To said, the general consensus seem to be that Festus is more fun (The "Nurgle" army being rather slow at its campaign buildup, having a somewhat tricky start and many seems to dislike this).
oook, i m just basically starting using both and i thought they were pretty the same in terms of units an mechanics but it seems that there are few thing going on.
Captain Baldy Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
Kugath is undoubtedly my favorite character in the game. Initially, his start might not be the best, but thanks to some well-chosen mods, I can transform him into an unstoppable force. As a greater daemon, he becomes a formidable tank, capable of taking on any challenge. Imagine having a powerful catapult, a skilled spellcaster, and a mighty mortis engine all in one character - it's simply incredible!

One of Kugath's most remarkable attributes is his massive health pool, which allows him to endure enormous amounts of damage without breaking a sweat. While he may not be the greatest duelist, he doesn't need to be. Kugath can just stand there, absorbing enemy attacks, and guaranteeing victory for the team. His presence alone is enough to make a significant impact on the battlefield.

What truly makes Kugath an absolute beast is his versatility. He excels in various roles simultaneously, making him a force to be reckoned with. Whether he's decimating enemies from afar, unleashing powerful spells, or supporting the team with his incredible health, Kugath always finds a way to contribute to the success of every battle. I can confidently say that he's an indispensable asset to any squad and a joy to play with.

Festus to learn how to play Nurgle, Ku'Gath to truly feel like a true Lord of filth:WH3_arsebelcher::WH3_nurgling:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3015575691
Last edited by Captain Baldy; Aug 5, 2023 @ 4:06pm
cybx Aug 5, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by a mite of Nurgle:
Kugath is undoubtedly my favorite character in the game. Initially, his start might not be the best, but thanks to some well-chosen mods, I can transform him into an unstoppable force. As a greater daemon, he becomes a formidable tank, capable of taking on any challenge. Imagine having a powerful catapult, a skilled spellcaster, and a mighty mortis engine all in one character - it's simply incredible!

One of Kugath's most remarkable attributes is his massive health pool, which allows him to endure enormous amounts of damage without breaking a sweat. While he may not be the greatest duelist, he doesn't need to be. Kugath can just stand there, absorbing enemy attacks, and guaranteeing victory for the team. His presence alone is enough to make a significant impact on the battlefield.

What truly makes Kugath an absolute beast is his versatility. He excels in various roles simultaneously, making him a force to be reckoned with. Whether he's decimating enemies from afar, unleashing powerful spells, or supporting the team with his incredible health, Kugath always finds a way to contribute to the success of every battle. I can confidently say that he's an indispensable asset to any squad and a joy to play with.

Festus to learn how to play Nurgle, Ku'Gath to truly feel like a true Lord of filth:WH3_arsebelcher::WH3_nurgling:
I dont use mods but thanks!!!. Nice to know that the orcs are not the biggest and the strongest as they say hahaha!!! the filthy Kugath it is then :D
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