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Campaign Map lag, tried all I know...
Heyhey!

I just don't get it. I tried matching same graphics settings in Warhammer 2, even tried some mods.

However, one distinct thing I noticed was using keys on campaign map is smoother than using the mouse. What's with that?

At this point, any pointers would be great. Unfortunately searches lead to threads that pretty much answer, nothing...

Have graphics set to low shadows and grass setting too with VFX at medium.

Any successes with settings at least?

Ta.
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John Cena Aug 4, 2023 @ 1:10am 
Can you share more stats? CPU/GPU usage, benchmarks results, avg. fps, etc...
8-The-General-8 Aug 4, 2023 @ 1:37am 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3014668003

My new rig. Every other TW title is running fine.

Campaign benchmark file ran, obviously.

Thanks
Captain Baldy Aug 4, 2023 @ 1:40am 
Have you tried this?

Limit frames per second in GPU to something you find comfortable
Go to…

C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Warhammer3\scripts
Create a text file and add the two lines below.

HYBRID_CPUS_TREAT_ALL_CORES_UNIFORMLY true;
number_of_threads 5;

Now save as user.script. with extension txt
Stuttering and campaign map issues should be resolved.
8-The-General-8 Aug 4, 2023 @ 1:42am 
Originally posted by a mite of Nurgle:
Have you tried this?

Limit frames per second in GPU to something you find comfortable
Go to…

C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Warhammer3\scripts
Create a text file and add the two lines below.

HYBRID_CPUS_TREAT_ALL_CORES_UNIFORMLY true;
number_of_threads 5;

Now save as user.script. with extension txt
Stuttering and campaign map issues should be resolved.

Wow! ok will give this a go.

Fans go crazy on campaign map that's for sure.

Edit:

Thanks for suggestion. Unfortunately, difference is not noticeable : (
Last edited by 8-The-General-8; Aug 4, 2023 @ 2:04am
John Cena Aug 4, 2023 @ 1:46am 
Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3014668003

My new rig. Every other TW title is running fine.

Campaign benchmark file ran, obviously.

Thanks
This is a laptop? Both the CPU and GPU are a bit dated and you may run into issues.

You can turn shadows off completely, they take a lot of processing power for your GPU. If you have lighting on, turn that off as well.

You should be able to increase unit size to ultra if you want.

Campaign map uses more of CPU than GPU especially to calculate movement. You can see this if you have a lord or hero with a large movement range. Just clicking on the unit and having the CPU have to calculate the movement zone can cause your game to hitch or at the very least you'll see a spike in CPU utilization if youre monitoring it.

With that said, maybe try changing those settings and taking note of CPU/GPU usage. You can use MSI afterburner or w/e other software you want.
CA_Nova  [developer] Aug 4, 2023 @ 1:51am 
Hey, our Performance team recently created some guidance and advice https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/333596/performance-issue-reporting-read-this-before-posting#latest which you may wish to take a look at more widely - it also includes guidance on how to report Performance related issues to us, which you may like to do if this issue persists. You can report such issues to us here: https://forums.totalwar.com/categories/support-total-war-warhammer-iii-performance-graphics Best, CA_Nova
8-The-General-8 Aug 4, 2023 @ 2:03am 
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3014668003

My new rig. Every other TW title is running fine.

Campaign benchmark file ran, obviously.

Thanks
This is a laptop? Both the CPU and GPU are a bit dated and you may run into issues.

You can turn shadows off completely, they take a lot of processing power for your GPU. If you have lighting on, turn that off as well.

You should be able to increase unit size to ultra if you want.

Campaign map uses more of CPU than GPU especially to calculate movement. You can see this if you have a lord or hero with a large movement range. Just clicking on the unit and having the CPU have to calculate the movement zone can cause your game to hitch or at the very least you'll see a spike in CPU utilization if youre monitoring it.

With that said, maybe try changing those settings and taking note of CPU/GPU usage. You can use MSI afterburner or w/e other software you want.

Yeah, TW ever CPU intensive.

Great advice, will keep experimenting : )

Oh, and using keys in campaign and battle seems to have no lag but mouse still does/

Using logitech hero at 2400 dpi I think. Maybe that is an issue with game?
John Cena Aug 4, 2023 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
This is a laptop? Both the CPU and GPU are a bit dated and you may run into issues.

You can turn shadows off completely, they take a lot of processing power for your GPU. If you have lighting on, turn that off as well.

You should be able to increase unit size to ultra if you want.

Campaign map uses more of CPU than GPU especially to calculate movement. You can see this if you have a lord or hero with a large movement range. Just clicking on the unit and having the CPU have to calculate the movement zone can cause your game to hitch or at the very least you'll see a spike in CPU utilization if youre monitoring it.

With that said, maybe try changing those settings and taking note of CPU/GPU usage. You can use MSI afterburner or w/e other software you want.

Yeah, TW ever CPU intensive.

Great advice, will keep experimenting : )

Oh, and using keys in campaign and battle seems to have no lag but mouse still does/

Using logitech hero at 2400 dpi I think. Maybe that is an issue with game?

Yeah I would experiment with different DPIs and see if that resolves the issue.
8-The-General-8 Aug 4, 2023 @ 2:16am 
For sure, it is so odd... Can WASD smoothly yet mouse input seems to be accompanied by lag. I remember a long time ago RTW had this issue and was fixed via user/preferences script (in addition grass and sky settings were an huge performance impact), so will delve deep I suppose into script files and see if something similar. After trying a few settings via logitech program first.

Other info related to performance:

16gb ram (Heh, changing that soon)
'Pagefile size 24gb
Running on SSD
2400 dpi ~ 1800 dpi

There are 4 related settings in graphics settings to do with shadows, interesting : F

Last edited by 8-The-General-8; Aug 4, 2023 @ 2:47am
8-The-General-8 Aug 4, 2023 @ 3:51am 
GTX 1060 according to what I just read is most common gpu on Steam. Two versions of it though.

Got 10 extra fps with Nvidia control panel > 3d management:
Power management mpde - Prefer maximum performance,

That's all I care to do for now. Will experiment with mouse settings and just get used to using WASD for campaign map (for the meantime until fixed...).

Thanks again.
Last edited by 8-The-General-8; Aug 4, 2023 @ 4:27am
8-The-General-8 Aug 4, 2023 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Hurricane:
Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:
GTX 1060 according to what I just read is most common gpu on Steam. Two versions of it though.

Got 10 extra fps with Nvidia control panel > 3d management:
Power management mpde - Prefer maximum performance,

That's all I care to do for now. Will experiment with mouse settings and just get used to using WASD for campaign map (for the meantime until fixed...).

Thanks again.
Erm this is total bs... you don't gey an extra 10 fps for power management at all... please stop spreading crap like this lol...yikes

Nothing useful there then...
Captain Baldy Aug 4, 2023 @ 5:48am 
Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:
Originally posted by a mite of Nurgle:
Have you tried this?

Limit frames per second in GPU to something you find comfortable
Go to…

C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Warhammer3\scripts
Create a text file and add the two lines below.

HYBRID_CPUS_TREAT_ALL_CORES_UNIFORMLY true;
number_of_threads 5;

Now save as user.script. with extension txt
Stuttering and campaign map issues should be resolved.

Wow! ok will give this a go.

Fans go crazy on campaign map that's for sure.

Edit:

Thanks for suggestion. Unfortunately, difference is not noticeable : (

Sorry to read that... I was sure this was going to help you. :steamfacepalm:
map just runs like ♥♥♥♥ bro. its up to the devs to figure it out but you might say their track record is not so good.
Stefan Aug 4, 2023 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by CA_Nova:
Hey, our Performance team recently created some guidance and advice https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/333596/performance-issue-reporting-read-this-before-posting#latest which you may wish to take a look at more widely - it also includes guidance on how to report Performance related issues to us, which you may like to do if this issue persists. You can report such issues to us here: https://forums.totalwar.com/categories/support-total-war-warhammer-iii-performance-graphics Best, CA_Nova

Can you add my post ot thsoe Q&A / solutions etc if oyu got a topic / post whatever on your site about that?
(post 20 i believe it was)
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1142710/discussions/2/3427823001997388113/?ctp=2#c3431201423152666657
8-The-General-8 Aug 5, 2023 @ 2:00am 
Originally posted by a mite of Nurgle:
Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:

Wow! ok will give this a go.

Fans go crazy on campaign map that's for sure.

Edit:

Thanks for suggestion. Unfortunately, difference is not noticeable : (

Sorry to read that... I was sure this was going to help you. :steamfacepalm:

Still experimenting with this actually, thanks. Some say it reduces heat at least in other threads so, yeah, why not. I'll start taking some screens of heat from CPU and GPU when enabled and see.

Found these links also so gonna tinker for a bit and see what I can do. My main aim is to get decent performance on campaign map, battles seem ok at large unit scale.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1142710/discussions/0/3806156528940889473/?ctp=2#c3806156528948487147

I really like the Reddit post. They should sticky that somewhere here...
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