Why does the campaign map run like absolute ass on a modern rig?

[AdmiralFlapflap]

I have a 7800x3d and a 3080ti and the campaign map can drop as low as 25 fps in some places....it's just absurd. I am only running it at 1440p too. I don't even have all the settings maxed out, most of the stuff is just on high. 2d portraits is on.

Is there anything I can do to fix this? I can run Cyberpunk 2077 with max settings better than that....lol.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by in:

Originally posted by Sarumoon:

"I am only running it at 1440p"

Only? Ya you can;t run it above 1080p. Turn it down.

nonsense - run 4K all ultra - is fine

I'm still not sure how you see higher then 1080 lol mine stops at 1080 despite my 4k monitor lol

[[*~MAJA~*] Mandragoron]

I can run this game with my 10 year old pc. Just reduce some settings, easy fix.

[WindBlownLeaf]

Originally posted by Falaris:

Originally posted by John_Bot:

yeah, campaign map has always been more demanding than battles in this franchise since, like... empire. it makes very little sense to me, without knowledge of the engine, I can't even begin to guess. people have complained about it since time immemorial, but CA never fixed it. i can only assume the problem is not simple, but then again, performance was seemingly never a priority (aside from troy, which runs amazing).

The 'problem' is that the map is dynamic, so it alters depending on corruption etc., and because it uses a lot of fog effects. That makes it quite memory intensive.

Additionally, lighting and fog effects on the map are fairly expensive due to large areas with fog and mist. If you want CA to fix it, they can remove those effects from the map for everyone, or you can fix it yourself by reducing your settings. I'd prefer if you did the latter.

Now, this could be useful - the first is more of an idiot's guide, the second is more of a settings explained thing:
https://www.getdroidtips.com/total-war-warhammer-3-fps-drops-pc/

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/u6iwgt/a_guide_to_graphics_settings_in_warhammer_3/

The only issue with that logic is that Troy campaign map runs amazing on the same engine. And don't start with 'but TWW3 is bigger'. Like I said, its been a problem for the series since forever, with Attila and ToB being the most egregious examples of the issue. In those games, you're lucky to get 50fps and it doesn't even use 70% of my gpu.

Don't always cover for CA, they ♥♥♥♥ up or cut corners like anyone else.

[strike478]

Originally posted by Admiral_Flapflap:

I have a 7800x3d and a 3080ti and the campaign map can drop as low as 25 fps in some places....it's just absurd. I am only running it at 1440p too. I don't even have all the settings maxed out, most of the stuff is just on high. 2d portraits is on.

Is there anything I can do to fix this? I can run Cyberpunk 2077 with max settings better than that....lol.

RTX 4080 (TUF gaming OC ed) and few months ago mine fps were also dropping hard on campaign map despite playing on 1080p (max settings asides from single effect that I just dont like). Whats funniest I had no single mod on my PC and no single application other than steam and TW:WH3 running.

Explanation can be only one. Game has some optimisation/code problems and it just doesnt use your GPU properly. 7800x3d is powerfull GPU which should handle this game even on 4k. Especially if you dont have all settings maxed out.

Also I see that your problems regards only campaign. So did mine. Even if fps during campaign were going obscenically low I had around 200 during battles. Untill I turned on V-Sync as mine PC seemed to early overheat during campaign. Which is hilarious given that I got 3 x 140mm case fans, mesh as front of case and cold flat.

[CA_Nova]

Hey there, that FPS does sound rather low! Our Performance team recently created some guidance and advice https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/333596/performance-issue-reporting-read-this-before-posting#latest which you may wish to take a look at - it also includes guidance on how to report Performance related issues to us, which you may like to do if this issue persists. You can report such issues to us here: https://forums.totalwar.com/categories/support-total-war-warhammer-iii-performance-graphics

Best, CA_Nova

[WindBlownLeaf]

Originally posted by CA_Nova:

Hey there, that FPS does sound rather low! Our Performance team recently created some guidance and advice https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/333596/performance-issue-reporting-read-this-before-posting#latest which you may wish to take a look at - it also includes guidance on how to report Performance related issues to us, which you may like to do if this issue persists. You can report such issues to us here: https://forums.totalwar.com/categories/support-total-war-warhammer-iii-performance-graphics

Best, CA_Nova

Personally, a lot of the stuttering/ sudden frame dips have been improved. I think the campaign map is just really resource intensive, which 'probably' isn't something that can be fixed user-side aside from lowering settings or upgrading. Though I'm not the OP, I appreciate the response.

[Serpentor]

Turning shadows off will nap you 10 fps.

[BEEP!]

RX6800 & 5800x3d on the campaign map maxed settings it doesn't drop under 45fps at 3440x1440p but overall yea it is kinda bad especially when I have like 70-80fps in battles & in really big battles it's like at lowest 55fps.

[TheAlmightyProo]

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

RX6800 & 5800x3d on the campaign map maxed settings it doesn't drop under 45fps at 3440x1440p but overall yea it is kinda bad especially when I have like 70-80fps in battles & in really big battles it's like at lowest 55fps.

Odd thing about that, and I dunno if it's just me...

But while I can get a wide spread of average and max fps in battles playing with settings and res (5800X, 6800XT, 32 Gb RAM, 3440x1440) the campaign fps is pretty much always within a more narrow window (40-50 fps on average maybe) across all of those and is more prone to drops than battles as well (down to 20-25 fps if crowded/scrolling fast)

On the bright side it's 'just' the campaign map I guess... while I was at one point a few years ago running WH2 at 30-40 fps battles and campaign, 20 fps in battles would be a definite nope even if 45 fps stable would be ok imo for this type/genre of game.

It's kind of a turntables thing tbh cos back when I ran WH2 (on another, better PC than the above mention, 65 fps in battles) it was more often battles that dropped more and further than the campaign map. A step forward and another back elsewhere it would seem is to be expected for what's left of this series... where you might be forgiven for thinking that after some seven years CA might be a bit better at doing this.

[8-The-General-8]

Gosh, there is a video on YT getting lots of likes and some russian/ukraine accent wtfever and they instruct you to go to regedit and modify key value for CPU...

Don't. Do. it.

[Zaskow]

You can nothing. The game is very poorly optimized.

[Winjin]

All right so a weird thing I came up with, is that I never had these issues with Warhammer, but I started Troy, and it runs amazing... EXCEPT when I choose one of the Heroes. And HEROES only. Not Cities, not Agents. Heroes. I noticed this when I changed the game to squeeze out every possible frame by lowering it to absolute Potato quality - absolutely everything is set to Low, No Shadows, etc. I got my GPU to run the game at 550 FPC, 1080p, at around 60-70% utilization.
Then my FPS drops from like 550 on Low settings to 14-15 fps.
What's most amazing is that the GPU usage actually DROPS from 70% to anything from 1-7%. I think writing this comment actually utilizes more FPS than that. It's like GPU doesn't throttle, but instead it goes into Idling mode. I could swear it's like I'm switching to built-in GPU, you know, the UHD Graphics 770 or whatever.

So I suggest checking - does it always run like ass? Or only when you have a hero chosen?