Best human faction

[Nats]

Started off playing Franz in Mortal and then Immortal Empires but you get hit by beastmen pretty quick and loads of other enemies around plus the other lords are useless. Which isnt much fun.

So who is the most fun human faction / lord to play?

[Ashardalon]

personally like cathay the most
but im a big fan of solid formations and mutual supporting overlapping cohesion
cant play reactive with them

empire is the baseline, basic humans

brettonia if you like cavalry
make those charges count

kislev has worse economy and less choice then empire
but the choices it does have are good

[Bluebeard]

Cathay and Warriors of Chaos are both a lot of fun.

[Craymar]

Wulfhart.... or whatever his name is

[Ashley]

Only Empire cause Bretonnians and Cathay are not humans

[God-Emperor Kami]

Bretonnia Factions are fun due to how strong their cavalry is. Cathay is boring to me, there play style is the least enjoyable. Kislev is interesting because they also have good cavalry like the Empire and Bretonnia, but with actual solid hybrid infantry to go along with that, you can have a good variety of builds with a relatively small roster. The Empire is the most fleshed out so I enjoy them the most in regards to human factions, but if they aren't you're thing, Kislev and Bretonnia I suggest a try.

[kilen]

Got a crazy good start in legendary/VH with Volkmar in the south, deleting Mannfred at turn7, already conquered the pyramid of Nagash roughly early turn 20s, and confederated Stirland around turn 25, etc.
Really impressed how my early game went solid with him at first try !
Multiple options to expand south and in the old world.
And already 3 armies while still having +4K profit/turn, although that needs some work more obviously to strengthen them.
And diplomatically as well, securing friendship with last defenders and lizardmen in the south (not going further there before long, evading Kairos), same deals with Settra, etc.
Really good solid early game there, feeling much stronger than any Empire faction I have seen in legendary so far in wh3…
Still at turn 32, I stopped that campaign to focus on Chorfs since 3.0, but I am gonna go back playing that one right next, and I feel confident about further success there.

So yeah, I would advise Volkmar on IE.
Not necessarily “the best”, but at least feeling a lot more solid than I thought initially.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Nats:

Started off playing Franz in Mortal and then Immortal Empires but you get hit by beastmen pretty quick and loads of other enemies around plus the other lords are useless. Which isnt much fun.

So who is the most fun human faction / lord to play?

Depends on your definition of "human" in this context. Since "Warriors of Chaos" & "Norsca" are just chaos tainted humans. "Vampire Counts", "Vampire Coast" & "Tomb Kings" are all just different flavors of undead humans. Heck if you really want to stretch it someone might even call Bretonnia humans (Yuck).

Warriors of Chaos can be very fun as a power trip, but they are a bit to easy atm.

[jonoliveira12]

Empire. It has the best roster, and is still missing advanced option, like Repeater Rifles, and Mechanical Horse cavalry that you can only imagine will have a giant charge bonus and Perfect Vigour (they are literally made of steel and brass).

If they do the Empire justice, it will almost become a 19th century army with portable machineguns and platemail.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

and Mechanical Horse cavalry

Source? I know mechanical steeds are a thing in the lore, but as far as i know only heroes/lords use them (especially engineers). So i don't think a whole unit of them is a thing.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

and Mechanical Horse cavalry

Source? I know mechanical steeds are a thing in the lore, but as far as i know only heroes/lords use them (especially engineers). So i don't think a whole unit of them is a thing.

They are used only be Lords and Master Engineers indeed, but I think that it can easily be expanded unto normal units.

Regardless, even if they remain a Lord/Hero specific mount, thay will likely still make said lords into one-man stampedes, if done properly, because a metal horse that is quite fast (as much as a normal horse), would pick up A LOT of momentum, so I can easily imagine they will have brutal charges like Dragons or Mourngul Haunters.

They are literally meant to demolish anything they impact against, with sheer mechanical force.

[Wyvern]

Cathay or Kislev are probably the easiest because of their one-trick rosters and idiot proof battle mechanics, but for enjoyment I think both Brets and Empire offer more diversity of gameplay.

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Empire. It has the best roster, and is still missing advanced option, like Repeater Rifles, and Mechanical Horse cavalry that you can only imagine will have a giant charge bonus and Perfect Vigour (they are literally made of steel and brass).

If they do the Empire justice, it will almost become a 19th century army with portable machineguns and platemail.

They already have their repeater rifles. It's what the outriders and war-wagons are armed with. They are missing Grand Masters, Hurricanums, Engineers(who would have the option for Mechanical Horse and Long Rifles) and arguably the Landships though, and of course another half dozen characters or something.

[Eldi]

A dead one.

Vamps rule.


I mean, umm.. Cathay imo.
Or do you mean empire only?

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Wyvern:

Cathay or Kislev are probably the easiest because of their one-trick rosters and idiot proof battle mechanics, but for enjoyment I think both Brets and Empire offer more diversity of gameplay.

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Empire. It has the best roster, and is still missing advanced option, like Repeater Rifles, and Mechanical Horse cavalry that you can only imagine will have a giant charge bonus and Perfect Vigour (they are literally made of steel and brass).

If they do the Empire justice, it will almost become a 19th century army with portable machineguns and platemail.

They already have their repeater rifles. It's what the outriders and war-wagons are armed with. They are missing Grand Masters, Hurricanums, Engineers(who would have the option for Mechanical Horse and Long Rifles) and arguably the Landships though, and of course another half dozen characters or something.

The TT Empire had Repeater Rifle Infantry, and Hochland Long Rifles (Jezzail equivalent), bot oh which it is currently missing.

Lategame Empire should be all about hyper-destructive gunlines that never stop shooting, huge and constant artillery cover, and some of the best Cavalry in the setting.

It will be BY FAR the most advanced Order army in the setting, just like in the TT.

[Вежливый человек]

Vampire counts, Tomb Kings XD

[Funky Monk]

Personally for me Cathay is the easiest. In terms of fun I'd say Kislev. The biggest problem with these 2 however is their small rosters.