Holy crap is this kinda hard coming from the prologue.

[TubbsFontaine]

So this is my first real entry into the Warhammer series other than playing the dawn of war demo back in the day and a little bit of spacemarine.

Anyways played the prologue. Had fun.

Then went into the second campaign and holy S**T this is hard. I feel like like 4 or 5 turns in im already messing up big time. Also the game is so fast. Boom people are asking me for money or they will go to war ETC. Im still struggling with some things.. Like how I cannot attack the like helper units from enemy's. Oh and it doesn't help that every faction literally completely changes how its played..

I keep coming back... I end up either losing the campaign pretty fast or just getting overwhelmed and rage restarting the whole thing.

Im so used to being able to comfortably farm resources so I can just kind of steamroll the map. But the game is constantly sending so much crap my way I feel like I cant keep up.

I dont know what I should be focusing on.. im so new to this type of RTS game. I used to like StarCraft where its just farm resources until you feel really OP and then go out and either poke people or steam role them. Im not used to the whole Diplomacy stuff. It took me hours to realize I wasnt making deals.. I was just closing out of them. Im still not 100% sure how to offer to join forces like full on where I can control them. Like I it as a option one campaign... But then no one else had that option.

On of the things I wish I could do that I probably can do I just dont know how to. Is when I keep making these deals with these other factions but when im caught being attacked with a low army I cant like request someone send in the Calvary and save me.

But yeah like 5 or 6 turns in I go to attack some enemies and they have like a jacked force of high level s**t already with dragons and bears and im standing there with 3 platoons of footman and a couple platoons of archers.

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

Well, who are you playing ? Difficulty ?

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by TubbyCakes:

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The difficulty and complexity of the game differs widely depending on the race (and even faction) you play as. Try a few more and you might find one that fits your playstyle.

Also i wouldn't trust what the game says is "beginner friendly", for example the Empire might have been beginner friendly once upon a time, but then they got a rework in game 2 adding more complex systems and in game 3 they start out surrounded by enemies (the empire AI factions having a very passive AI thus getting picked off quickly).

[fdisk7716]

I'm new to the Total War series too but I can't stop playing this. I realized much of the fun of this game is starting over and trying new builds and strategies. It doesn't really matter if I lose a campaign. Like you said, the game moves pretty fast so it just ends up not being a big deal for me restarting campaigns all the time.

[TubbsFontaine]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Well, who are you playing ? Difficulty ?

So at first I wanted to try the guy from the prologue.. but I got super confused from the rip because the race places completely differently.

Then I was like oh I know lets try to play the Russian Ice people again so I tried that. Got way farther but then got pretty upset when I started losing my main garrisons and it felt like all hope was lost. Felt like everyone I tried to challenge were waaaay more advanced than me. In-fact I convinced another faction to join me and was surprised at how much crap they had. But I still kept losing.

Now I just started again on the like Demon blood god dude who likes skulls. I like that when he beats a garrison (<-- im spelling that way wrong huh?) he gets like a little bonus army.

But yeah just normal difficulty. I am considering lowing it just to learn lol.

[Mr. Ape]

EDIT: i see, so normal difficulty.

Also, this game is better played being aggressive. Simple equations:
1. More land = more money = bigger army = capture more land (repeat)
2. Fighting battles = post battle income / loot / sack settlements = more money = build more structures in your cities = more money = bigger army (repeat)

Turtling is generally not a good strategy in this game.

[Enelith]

Tbh, if you're learning the ropes and feel the tutorial is too hardcore, depending of your faction, you might want to play RoC a bit (then switch to IE when more comfortable about everything).

[halogamb]

Also, Zerkovich on youtube has some excellent guide videos.

[MrSoul]

Kislev is not a good faction to learn IE with, they get absolute short end of the stick there.

I’d recommend dark elves but I just know them so well, so don’t know really a good beginner faction. Also all I really play so again, would recommend if had a solid idea for you, maybe one of the daemon factions like khorne where can just rampage and slaughter and not care as much about being on defence.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Kislev is not a good faction to learn IE with, they get absolute short end of the stick there.

I’d recommend dark elves but I just know them so well, so don’t know really a good beginner faction. Also all I really play so again, would recommend if had a solid idea for you.

All down to owned DLC's.

Baseline easiest probably khorne in Immortal empires and realm of chaos or Nurgle in RoC to learn.
Slaanesh works if you can micromanage units well.
Tzeentch isn't great to play.
Daemon of chaos has a rough start, although i never played him in IE.
Nurgle's first enemy Ghorst is a pain in the ass for a new player in IE.
Kislev has a poor start as well in IE.

[Jukelo]

OP has all three games, so assuming IE I would recommend Tyrion's high elves (straightforward infantry + archers + strong monsters and cavalry), strong troops, strong economy, relatively safe position) as a good starting point to learn the game.

For a game 3 race, Cathay would be a good campaign too (either faction will work) as the starting position is fairly safe and it is also a traditional melee + range/artillery faction, with strong hybrid lords and a good economy.

Both HE and Cathay will allow a beginner to learn the game without getting slammed too hard by mistakes.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Jukelo:

For a game 3 race, Cathay would be a good campaign too (either faction will work) as the starting position is fairly safe.

I knew i forgot a race.
Cathay is among the easiest factions, the iron dragon one is the easier of the two.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Fryskar:

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Kislev is not a good faction to learn IE with, they get absolute short end of the stick there.

I’d recommend dark elves but I just know them so well, so don’t know really a good beginner faction. Also all I really play so again, would recommend if had a solid idea for you.

All down to owned DLC's.

Baseline easiest probably khorne in Immortal empires and realm of chaos or Nurgle in RoC to learn.
Slaanesh works if you can micromanage units well.
Tzeentch isn't great to play.
Daemon of chaos has a rough start, although i never played him in IE.
Nurgle's first enemy Ghorst is a pain in the ass for a new player in IE.
Kislev has a poor start as well in IE.

Nurgle in ROC to learn....?
Nurgle is a bit complex for new players (more than Skaven even IMO) and you're right near Order factions.

Definitely Cathay for a safer start.

[Butter Bot]

Did you play immortal empire (IE) or reign of chaos (RoC)?
the race of warhammer 3 have mostly hard starting position in IE except cathay and mabye the demon of chaos but they are wierd when starting.

Cathay spawn next to the limit of the map so you don't have to much side to manage and you can have some friend.

[Sarumoon]

Never ally with anyone, only non aggression pacts and trade.

No defensive alliances, no military ones, dont talk to strangers. Their wars become your wars.

Play dwarfs if you want to go slow. Good luck.

[Rubyeyed]

Prologue in this game is ridiculous and teaches you bad habits from the get go. I played it for the achievement and let me tell you, this isn't the game. Especially gaining a massive amount of stats form just buildings in settlements. There is nothing like it in the actual game.

When I started playing the game back in WH1 I just played the Empire over and over until I got it right. All other advice in here is also good, some races are harder than others.

Honestly, if you are really struggling, try to watch some general guide on yt and pick something easy like High Elves in IE. Cathay has a lot of those little bs mechanics so it might be a bit overwhelming.

Don't give up, you will get better with practice.