Bretonnia: Starting trait for Damsels

[Lisan al Gaib]

What is the best starting trait for a Bretonnian Damsel? Thanks.

1. CUNNING
- Ambush Success Chance: +10% (local region)
- Enables Poision Attacks

2. KNOWLEDGEABLE
- Character experience gain: +15%

3. CONFIDENT
- Leadership: +10
- Leadership: +2 (all units in army)

4. PERCEPTIVE
- Magic item drop chance: +15%
- Campaign line of sight: +10%

5. INTELLIGENT
- Hero Self-defence: +5% chance of wounding aggressors
- Abush defence chance: +10%

6. DETERMINED
- Leadership: +3
- Attribute: Immune to psychology

7. TOUGH
- Armour: +25
- Melee defence: +5

8. FLEET-FOOTED
- Speed: +20%
- Attribute: Strider

9. AGGRESSIVE
- Weapon strength: +10%
- Charge Bonus: +8

[Triple G]

Except for determined and aggressive i don´t see a really bad one, confident perhaps isn´t that useful either if You only have one char with it, but the peasants have low leadership in general.

Perhaps fleet-footed if You want to use her in the army - or knowledgeable on the campaign map for faster level ups.

[Lisan al Gaib]

Originally posted by Triple G:

Except for determined and aggressive i don´t see a really bad one, confident perhaps isn´t that useful either if You only have one char with it, but the peasants have low leadership in general.

Perhaps fleet-footed if You want to use her in the army - or knowledgeable on the campaign map for faster level ups.

Found another one lol. Think this one is the best among all.

10. Disciplined
- Leadership: +2 (all units in army)
- Melee attack: +2 (all units in army)

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Triple G:

Except for determined and aggressive i don´t see a really bad one, confident perhaps isn´t that useful either if You only have one char with it, but the peasants have low leadership in general.

Perhaps fleet-footed if You want to use her in the army - or knowledgeable on the campaign map for faster level ups.

Knowledgeable is actually a very bad trait. Literally will do nothing with enough time.
Traits that only aid in leveling up are bad, since you can easily get characters to max level in the game, after which they practically are without any trait.

[Kayeka]

Personally, I like Cunning. Ambushes are great, and that extra 10% makes it easier to go fishing outside of the designated ambush spots.

[Lisan al Gaib]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Triple G:

Except for determined and aggressive i don´t see a really bad one, confident perhaps isn´t that useful either if You only have one char with it, but the peasants have low leadership in general.

Perhaps fleet-footed if You want to use her in the army - or knowledgeable on the campaign map for faster level ups.

Knowledgeable is actually a very bad trait. Literally will do nothing with enough time.
Traits that only aid in leveling up are bad, since you can easily get characters to max level in the game, after which they practically are without any trait.

Agreed 100%.

[MoroKahn|DL|]

Imho Disciplined and Confident are the go-to in this order, if neither is available, i fish for perceptive, as im having bad luck with item drops.

[Lisan al Gaib]

Originally posted by MoroKahn|DL|:

Imho Disciplined and Confident are the go-to in this order, if neither is available, i fish for perceptive, as im having bad luck with item drops.

Sounds good mate

[Triple G]

Originally posted by Nitro:

10. Disciplined
- Leadership: +2 (all units in army)
- Melee attack: +2 (all units in army)

Yes - i did that in my orc campaign, when i had a couple of those to get +8 or +10. But else +2 isn´t much...

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Knowledgeable is actually a very bad trait. Literally will do nothing with enough time.
Traits that only aid in leveling up are bad, since you can easily get characters to max level in the game, after which they practically are without any trait.

It´s not that the traits are game changing anyway. This trait is good if You get additional heroes later - to level them up a bit faster, as the skills are more valuable than the traits in most cases. +20% speed for a caster is nontheless the top pick - that´s why i said the other on campaign, as there the XP isn´t the same. Usually i get my first lord on level 50 - perhaps some starting heroes, but the rest rather not, occasionally also the second army. Of course it´s different if You play really long campaigns. But nonetheless it could even be helpful as first character in battle, because then she gets the last mentor skill 15% faster - to help every other damsel leveling up. Wouldn´t rate it very bad, because most of the others are also just mediocre. Ambush chance could be nice sometimes. Imho traits are overrated - as items, ancillaries or skills will outperform them usually.

[Amereth]

personnally nothing beat fleet footed.... I want my caster to move fast on the battlefield.


Intelligent is nice if you are fighting skavens.


confident is extremely useless. 2 in leadership is a joke...

disciplined would be nice if you go heavy melee... but you play Bretonnia...


perceptive isn't that bad since you won't have a lot of way to get magic items and you will need gear for all those Paladin.

[A.Pot]

My personal top pick is Fleet Footed because the Damsels are still mages. You do not want them to get stuck into melee fights and the Speed along with Strider bonus means they can get in and out of range to cast spells.

Cunning though is not bad because for some reason, Poison (at least in the 2nd game, not sure about now) affects spells as well.

Perceptive is great due to helping get gear for your lords and heroes.

[zefyris]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Triple G:

Except for determined and aggressive i don´t see a really bad one, confident perhaps isn´t that useful either if You only have one char with it, but the peasants have low leadership in general.

Perhaps fleet-footed if You want to use her in the army - or knowledgeable on the campaign map for faster level ups.

Knowledgeable is actually a very bad trait. Literally will do nothing with enough time.
Traits that only aid in leveling up are bad, since you can easily get characters to max level in the game, after which they practically are without any trait.

Incorrect. All characters now have a mentor skill that will allow them to share the xp gained, so gaining more xp means more shared. As long as you have more than 2 non lvl 50 characters that receive from the Mentor skill, Knowledgeable will grant more at max level than the initial 15% you were receiving before gettign Mentor.
Furthermore, most heroes for example do not need all their 50 points to get all of what you want, some don't even have 50 points worth of skill available in total, so taking Mentor is an obvious choice with no downsides.

[Shellbie]

The trait with ambush defense is required when facing Skaven.