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It's much more balanced than the earlier versions of SFO that had some seriously busted elite units and magic. They've done a lot of tweaks over the years that have made it feel pretty holistic overall.
I like what they've done with making it harder to stack up tons of -% upkeep in SFO compared to vanilla where it can be pretty cheesy with some races to have an all elite army costing peanuts due to all the -% upkeep stacking.
Yea, just for the record since I wasn't clear in my first post, I don't think it's better balanced than vanilla either. It's just not significantly worse balance than vanilla like it used to be in the early days of SFO in WH1 and WH2.
They did a massive balance pass on all the units when they stopped doing major race add-ons a while ago.
lol what balance in Vanilla. 2 was " we love the order " 3 is " we love the chaos "
I feel they also go out of their way to make elite units more... elite. Which, when some factions dont have comparably elite units, makes things less balanced.
They gutted some factions economies (gs, de) while jacking others sky high (bret). They gave everyone more background income but less economic income through buildings, which means I feel some factions scale poorly into the mid-lategame compared to others. (true, this was a problem in vanilla, but I feel like SFO as a rule of thumb gave you double background income but 60% of vanilla everywhere else. So you can get that 2nd/3rd army out eariler, but its much harder to get armies beyond that. So the more you expand, the harder it is to defend, giving destruction factions a huge advantage over empire builder factions)
I also just gave up on a SFO Coast playthrough because something was very very wrong with the autoresolve (4 stacks couldnt autoresolve a half stack). I and many other people have complained about this to SFO but they insist "we dont touch auto". Well, something you did, did something. Coast has bad autoresolve to begin with, but sfo means you will have to fight every single battle no matter how much you outnumber them. Unless thats been fixed in the last couple weeks.
Personally, I have much more fun with a more tailored modset (A slower battle mod that doesnt change everything else about the game, with a few other tailored mods to fix things I think need fixing). But to each their own, tastes vary. I think a lot of people just are happy to have something a bit different atm, good or not.
They do some things right, add some cool units (manticore lords), fix some otherwise useless units (sky lantern), and lessons could and should be learned by CA by seeing what works with SFO. But its not for me.
I personally prefer the game with SFO but if you're looking for a more balanced experience, I unironically think vanilla is a better choice in that regard.
This is pretty interesting to me, because I legit never had autoresolve be this bad, with or without SFO. And yea, I also do not believe it has anything to do with the mod itself. I had weird autoresolve outcomes with and without SFO, but it was like this in the older games too so I just got used to it. And I'm not really surprised, it's hard to accurately predict fights purely with mathematics, you're bound to run into weird outcomes both in your and the enemy's favor.
Not saying SFO is balanced either, just saying it has more balance.
And please stop using the word troll. It has lost all meaning. You people use it when someone gives constructive criticism about this game, oh they're just being salty and trolling, you use it when someone tries explaining something and when someone has some sort of personal opinion or issue about the game. Please just stop, have a meaningful discussion instead, talk like adults, stop this meaningless sh*t-flinging it helps no one.
If you comparing it with the older versions (WH1/WH2) then yes its more balanced.
I dont play with huge overhauls like SFO/Grimhammer cause i dont like how they change nearly everything. I did however check them out to see how they are and personally i didnt like the changes but that's just me.
No way. I've been extensively playing sfo for weeks now and i have to say it's kind of mess balance wise. Autoresolve is also way more whacky than in vanilla.