What is the goal of Immortal Empires?

[Bogart]

Simply put is to get your race to just take over the whole giant map? I don't have the game here and I guess I won't for some years because of the price but looking at some peoples playing times on here they have hundreds of hours. What exactly is that time spent doing? Do you forge alliances with other kingdoms or just take them over? I'm thinking about Civ here where you can win a game under various victory conditions.

[The Sand Witch]

factions have specific, if lazily-designed, objectives to fullfil. In the end, it mostly ends up being "conquer this and that and those lands" but it's also quite often "directly or through alliances". As such, either fully destroying / conquering or forging alliances with factions that control the lands you seek instead of deleting them is an existing option.

A lot of that time is spent waiting between turns, too, so it can amounts to a lot of hours.

And there are a few that play pvp as well, but that's a slim part of the players.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Bogart Porter Bridges:

What is the goal of Immortal Empires?

Simply put is to get your race to just take over the whole giant map? I don't have the game here and I guess I won't for some years because of the price but looking at some peoples playing times on here they have hundreds of hours. What exactly is that time spent doing? Do you forge alliances with other kingdoms or just take them over? I'm thinking about Civ here where you can win a game under various victory conditions.

Fulfill your victory objectives I suppose. There isn't really a narrative purpose, but then again does Civ really have one other than win for poops and giggles. If you want a story there are narrative-driven campaigns that you can play (Realms of Chaos, Champions of Chaos, the Prologue, the multiplayer mini-campaigns).

[Zav]

Originally posted by Bogart Porter Bridges:

Simply put is to get your race to just take over the whole giant map? I don't have the game here and I guess I won't for some years because of the price but looking at some peoples playing times on here they have hundreds of hours. What exactly is that time spent doing? Do you forge alliances with other kingdoms or just take them over? I'm thinking about Civ here where you can win a game under various victory conditions.

Some races have specific goals, which make IE a lot of fun. However, there are a lot of others which have no goals other than 'conquer/paint the map' and they get really boring after a while. IE is far too 'sandboxxy' atm.

Most of the RoC release factions and those who relied upon the Vortex mode in WH2 suffer from a real lack of goals and 'end game'. They just don't feel fulfilling atm at all. End game is a one size fits all type system, which is....very lazily designed imo and the thing I am most disappointed about with IE as it currently stands.

Hoping they'll bring in some complex racial mechanics for a lot of these factions. They sorely need it

[Lord Antony]

Originally posted by Bogart Porter Bridges:

Simply put is to get your race to just take over the whole giant map? I don't have the game here and I guess I won't for some years because of the price but looking at some peoples playing times on here they have hundreds of hours. What exactly is that time spent doing? Do you forge alliances with other kingdoms or just take them over? I'm thinking about Civ here where you can win a game under various victory conditions.

Map painting.

[Freak4Leeks]

I rarely ever finish a campaign i stop at around 50 because by then i am usually so powerful it gets boring however the early ultimate endgame crisis has alleviated that alot i get to round 150 maybe 200 before i get bored, so my goal is usually just... have fun while it lasts and you have to start again. kek

[Argent]

In Immortal Empires your race or faction have a unique victory condition, you can have alliances depending on your race or faction. Immortal Empires is free for all warhammer 3 players and you can access all the races you have acquired/own in-game (including Be'lakor if you have finished the Realm of Chaos campaign and Boris Ursus once you unlock him, as well as the Ogre Kingdoms if you bought them or acquired them when pre-purchasing the third game, and also the Champions of Chaos if you bought them).

it's basically a sandbox grand campaign.

You do need to buy the previous games to access their own respective base races/factions, but also you can buy the previous dlcs separately without needing to buy the previous games if you want to: i.e., you can buy Warriors of Chaos or curse of the vampire coast without needing to own either Total War: Warhammer 1 or 2. Free lords, units, etc. require that you own a particular race or game... with the exception of Bretonnia, which was free for all Warhammer III players, like they are back in the first game.

It is quite expensive to own every race/faction for Immortal Empires but waiting for sales/discounts will definitely reduce the prices significantly. There's even a sale currently for most of the previous Total War: Warhammer games dlcs.

[Lamp]

Yeah I used to always finish my games. Always did in ME and finished them for a long while in IE. But IE desperately needs some extra flavour. The victory conditions are extremely unengaging. Makes every faction feel the same by lategame.
Now I usually end up snowballing around midgame and by lategame it starts to get tedious.

Needs a hefty dose of narrative- but not like RoC in any way. Unfortunately that narrative injection needs to be specific to each faction, too, or it's pointless, so don't hold your breath on that one.

[Isaac]

There are victory conditions, but the majority just conquers land until they get bored and do the same with the next faction

[IonizedMercury]

Get gloriously bored fighting inferior and cowardly enemies effortlessly. Fall asleep with great success. Heroically waste hours of your life on turn times that have been de-optimized on purpose to artificially increase the engagement numbers with the game.

[Fendelphi]

It is a sandbox. Factions have some subobjectives that gives bonuses when completed, but other than that, it is what you make of it.

[IonizedMercury]

Originally posted by Fendelphi:

It is a sandbox. Factions have some subobjectives that gives bonuses when completed, but other than that, it is what you make of it.

I agree.

It's a sandbox in the sense that you can only have fun if you are mentally on even keel with the five-year olds who normally play in actual sandboxes.

[Zalgrodhal]

Conquer.

[The Vindicator]

Essentially. But in my opinion, in order to truly enjoy immortal empires you actually have to roleplay and truly take on the mindset of the faction you are playing. For instance when i play The Empire, im actually not aggressively expanding. My whole playstyle and mindset is actually trying to defend myself and the other imperial provinces from other factions trying to kill us and take us over and ultimately unite the empire, because that is the mindset of Karl Franz himself (aka the leader of your faction and the person who shoes your "suppose to step in").

[Triple G]

It´s to provide the ultimate competitive challenge vs a superior AI - and to win nonetheless. In legendary difficulty. Spiced up with some more ultimate aggressiveness mods. And smart AI mods. And low stats for the player mods. And super-high stats for the AI mods. And only one army for the player mods. And uncountable armies for the AI mods. Short movement range mods. ...

[Funky Monk]

There are campaign objectives in IE, but they aren't crucial. It's a sandbox, you can choose what you want to do