Whats a good High Elf and Dwarves Doomstack?

[Brett]

what units would make a good doomstack?

[Ashley]

For high elves sisters of averlorn. Don't listen to the multiplayers that think spearmen are a doomstack unit.

For dwarves probably nothing. Never recruit the gyrocopters though that's a doomed stack

[chronobomb]

High Elves get lot's of doomstacks:
Sisters stack, Dragon Stack, Lothern Seaguard stack. Eltharion get's his own doom stacks.

For the Dawi, it's usually Artillery Doomstacks. Organ Guns with a couple flame cannons and maybe a couple regular cannons to dual their artillery. Toss in 5 heroes to get the enemy to bunch up and your golden.

[pascal.difolco]

Originally posted by chronobomb:

High Elves get lot's of doomstacks:
Sisters stack, Dragon Stack, Lothern Seaguard stack. Eltharion get's his own doom stacks.

For the Dawi, it's usually Artillery Doomstacks. Organ Guns with a couple flame cannons and maybe a couple regular cannons to dual their artillery. Toss in 5 heroes to get the enemy to bunch up and your golden.

For Dwarfs an arty doomstack won't work well vs fast numerous enemies (or Skaven Menaces/Vermintides), your heroes won't be numerous enough and arty will be overrun, you'd better get at least some antilarge inf to cover flanks/rear

[Professor H. Farnsworth]

Dwarves don’t have a doom stack. Organ Gun, Ironbreakers and either Quarrellers/Rangers or the rifles.. Quarrellers and Rangers works best overall as they are useful in sieges.. Rifles are best for armor

[Mezore]

Ironbrow has the best ranged unit in the game (from my point of view), able to melt anything including legendary lord. Quareller with all his buff (range bonus, ignore half of the target armor and a lot of classic bonus )are scary powerful in small number so with a doomstack, i doubt anything can wisthand it. He also buff grudge thrower so any army will die before reaching them, cities will fall without a single beard hair damaged and you can also have a pet carno just for the fun of it

[kilen]

About dwarfs, there still this one from wh2. https://youtu.be/dQ2LyLlmzrg
Not the most convenient, I didn’t try dwarfs in wh3 (yet), but could be good to put it to the test in wh3 as well…

[A.Pot]

If you are not averse to micromanaging, Tiranoc Chariots make for fun doomstacks as High Elves. Can't say much for Dwarfs outside of Gyrobombers.

[Triple G]

Originally posted by Mezore:

Ironbrow has the best ranged unit in the game (from my point of view), able to melt anything including legendary lord.

Sisters of twilight with their buffs, and tech, and red line have the tier 1 poison archers at 200 range and 71 damage - without temporary, or area, or item buffs. They even trade well with other ranged units because of 15% reduced damage thanks to the poison effect. And they´re cheap. They lack armor piercing, but it doesn´t really matter, because 15% reduced speed means 1 or 2 more shots on the targets.

Else i´s rate shades with great weapons as best ranged infantry units, because they have everything You´d want from a ranged unit. Good range, good armor piercing damage (i guess around 50 combined), stalk, armor piercing melee - and decent melee stats, which they usually don´t need, because You melt anything which comes close anyway, while artillery can´t fire on them, because of stalk. You can bring them into position and then start firing - if You don´t have artillery. Works in field battles and sieges.

Topic:
I guess everything was said in post #2 and #4.

Ironbreakers can probably be an auto-resolve doomstack - but they lack range and / or speed if You face enemy ranged units in manual battles. That´ll be the same problem with irondrakes. Their advantage is that they don´t need to get that close that the enemy will run away from them - but You would still need to close a gap - and they don´t have the silver shields. I guess the closest single unit which can do it are the bugman´s rangers, because of vanguard deployment, stalk, and self-healing, but they also lack speed, armor and armor piercing damage - while the latter shouldn´t be an issue if used in high numbers. They´re also faster than most heavy infantry, which could be a problem in melee - and they have charge defense vs. large.

[Achilles]

High elves-
Legendary lord
2 sword masters of hoeth
1 mage
3 Phoenix guard
2 sword masters of hoeth
7 sisters of avalorn
1 arcane Phoenix
3 star dragons
Phoenix guard are backbone with sword masters on either side with sisters behind them. Watch as dragon fire and sister melt everything before they even get to you.
Dwarfs-
Legendary lord
1 thane
2 engineer
1 rune lord
5 iron breakers
4 thunderers
2 iron drakes
4 organ guns
Position engineers so that half of the iron drakes, thunders and organ guns are on one side with the others with the other engineer on the other. This takes full advantage of the reload perk. I don’t think a single army in the game can get past this…

[Verchial]

High elves - 8-12 sisters of avalorn and heroes.
Dwarfs - trollhammer torps, organ guns and heroes.

[DaBa]

Originally posted by Achilles:

High elves-
Legendary lord
2 sword masters of hoeth
1 mage
3 Phoenix guard
2 sword masters of hoeth
7 sisters of avalorn
1 arcane Phoenix
3 star dragons
Phoenix guard are backbone with sword masters on either side with sisters behind them. Watch as dragon fire and sister melt everything before they even get to you.
Dwarfs-
Legendary lord
1 thane
2 engineer
1 rune lord
5 iron breakers
4 thunderers
2 iron drakes
4 organ guns
Position engineers so that half of the iron drakes, thunders and organ guns are on one side with the others with the other engineer on the other. This takes full advantage of the reload perk. I don’t think a single army in the game can get past this…

That not what you'd refer to as a doomstack, that's a normal army composition.

[sirkudjon]

As dawi idk. For HE, DRAGONS. Pick Imrik btw cause he have some other as well not available to recruit normally.

[Ubaldios]

Originally posted by WALTUH:

For high elves sisters of averlorn. Don't listen to the multiplayers that think spearmen are a doomstack unit.

For dwarves probably nothing. Never recruit the gyrocopters though that's a doomed stack

You can recruit 1 just to take down artillery

[Ubaldios]

Don't doomstack dwarfs, just get like 5 organ guns and a few ironbreakers to guard them, the rest of the army you can get whatever - heroes would be a good choice.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by Bruce Lemur:

Originally posted by WALTUH:

For high elves sisters of averlorn. Don't listen to the multiplayers that think spearmen are a doomstack unit.

For dwarves probably nothing. Never recruit the gyrocopters though that's a doomed stack

You can recruit 1 just to take down artillery

No thank you