IE is becoming booring...

[Avipt]

So playing the realm of chaos campaign not finishing it due to fatigue from all the portals, i started with IE instead, And i havent been able to finish any of my new IE campaigns, feels like the game ends at turn 60 or so, It just becomes same grind, For all factions. Now im actually enjoying the "smaller" campaigns due them having a more story focus and a red thread.

[Enelith]

Originally posted by stompie5:

You can become a super nerd like me and create little scenarios or challenges for yourself. Or just take a break and play other things for awhile. The world is your oyster

This.

And tbh, RoC is your "smaller" campaign with a real goal / red thread. (the Portals difficulty is honestly no more a nuisance considering how easy those fix made it... Bit a shame but it's a matter of opinion / taste).
If you can't finish it for real, time to go play something else and come back a bit later.

[Zeek]

Theres a mod to turn the portals off in the RoC campaign making it a mini-IE

[Ashardalon]

yes IE is so boring only 2% of players ever finishes a campaign
thats why people demanded that RoC be turned into more like IE because they dont know how to handle fun
now there are two boring campaigns and nowhere there is challenge

[-Singularity-]

Total War games have always been this way. They have tried various things to combat this over the years, i.e. realm divide in Shogun 2 but you pretty much have to decide on your own when its over. I've had a few more campaigns than usual go much longer since the last patch, but still no where near official endgame.

[Fryskar]

Been there, done that.
Well, after you played every faction for x times, stuff tends to get boring.

[Triple G]

Sandbox game problems i guess. Some like it, some don´t. I finished my first Total War campaign in Warhammer 2 - before i didn´t even look at the objectives. I blame the achievements for it. :o)

[jonoliveira12]

Sandboxes are boring, after a while.
IE is a huge sandbox, no objectives except playing until you get tired of your toy soldiers.

It is great every once in a while, to revisit, but constantly playing it will make it go stale VERY fast.
People should have valued RoC while they still had challenge in it.
Conquering the world gets boring.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Avipt:

So playing the realm of chaos campaign not finishing it due to fatigue from all the portals, i started with IE instead, And i havent been able to finish any of my new IE campaigns, feels like the game ends at turn 60 or so, It just becomes same grind, For all factions. Now im actually enjoying the "smaller" campaigns due them having a more story focus and a red thread.

Happens to everyone, even in the illustrious TWW2 and ME. That's the reason why CA tried to adding the Endgame Crises, to spice things up and keep people from getting bored address people's complaints about getting too bored to finish their ME campaigns. You must also have been one of those liked Vortex better too back in the day.

[Lost Latios]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

People should have valued RoC while they still had challenge in it.

Challenge of keeping interested...

I have fun up until I get to go to the realms, because honestly I'll I'm doing is fighting the same armies for several turns and then get to play a dirt easy tower defense. Makes each realm feel the same, and not at all exciting. I stop playing for the day when I reach those end battles because by the end of them I typically don't want to play, so I save it for next time to have a good reason to continue afterwards.

At least in IE I get to fight all the factions and don't have to suddenly stop what I am doing with my LL to go play in the chaos god's sand pit to get their turds out before I leave.

In my opinion those realms should have not been campaign map focused. Should have been a series of battles with their own gimiks of the gods. Khorne's is a tournament, Nurgle's is a contest of durability, Tzeentch challenges you with ambushes, unfavorable terrain, and of course traps and deceptions, then Slannesh is a simple fight...that is if you want it to be simple. Could go after this pile of gold that'll be added to your rewards after battle. All you have to do is defeat the small army there...and there... Actually tempt the player into believing they can get away with all of it, with the chance of getting all of it, but also a good chance to simply lose because you were too busy indulging yourself in extra rewards.

Just anything other then four rounds of three 'defend this spot with over powered stuff against some waves'.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by stompie5:

You can become a super nerd like me and create little scenarios or challenges for yourself.

Become a super nerd? Isn't that just Legend of Total War's streams in a nutshell.

[Ashardalon]

Originally posted by SBA77:

Originally posted by Avipt:

So playing the realm of chaos campaign not finishing it due to fatigue from all the portals, i started with IE instead, And i havent been able to finish any of my new IE campaigns, feels like the game ends at turn 60 or so, It just becomes same grind, For all factions. Now im actually enjoying the "smaller" campaigns due them having a more story focus and a red thread.

Happens to everyone, even in the illustrious TWW2 and ME. That's the reason why CA tried to adding the Endgame Crises, to spice things up and keep people from getting bored address people's complaints about too bored to finish their ME campaigns. You must also have been one of those liked Vortex better too back in the day.

yay more endless tides of meaningless fights

[Bonham]

I have the same problem, but I do as some people have suggested: I know about the lore of most factions so I just write down in my head a series of objectives that my lord would have, and I complete them and that's it. I also base my alliances and my hostilities in the same way. It is sadly anticlimatic because the game won't give me a "You are victorious!" message when I am finished, which sucks, but it beats fighting and expanding willy-nilly just for the sake of it. You can even think that your lord smoke some bad mushrooms and thought that the only way to bring prosperity to your faction is conquering ABSOLUTELY everything in the map. The problem with that is that there is a point in which you have so much money and so many armies that it is to easy and repetitive.

[dan_newman123]

WH2 -> I usually played until I got a long campaign victory (~150-200 turns)
WH3 -> I have not played a campaign past turn 80. I blame the fact that the threat mechanic renders diplomacy useless and also that AI never gets big and threatening late game. Always fighting a bunch of small factions = annoying and without as much campaign strategy.

[lethminite]

All 4x/grand strategy games end up having a boring endgame. It's just the nature of the players growth path being faster than the AI, you are challenged, until you find a point of stability, then suddenly you are growing faster than everyone else, and it's just going through the motions mopping up.
This is a big reason they added the end game scenarios, to get you a final challenge.
I don't think they work too well, because they follow the same pattern, of being on the back foot, until you find some stability, then just mopping up. but at least it lets you do that with endgame builds, instead of just early game, so better than nothing, they having the end game scenarios come early for you, see if that helps.

I'm personally liking just playing for short campaign victory, I don't really feel that there is much challenge between the short and long victory, just more turns. So I tend to start again after getting the short victory.

[Triple G]

I never played for a long victory. It´s just about painting the map from some point on. Even doing the short one is sometimes a question of patience, but nowadays i tend to do that while i´m at it. Also i never did some world conquest in other games, because it´s enough for me to know that i would achieve it, if i would just play further - without putting much effort into it.