Vampires OP (Thanks)

[Cardboard]

When im playing campgain the vampires in the mountains south of the empire are so broken, i could kill all of them even the lord only to have the lord not die run back to a few steps then spawn a brand new army and attack me, i had this happen 3 times in 1 turn, i put up the best fight i could repelling them all until the last because my garrison had no one left form the broken vampire.

Anyone know a good mod that fixes the vampires, i even just now had a battle with them again with 2 massive armies only to have them smashed out of the field like its nothing and for the vampires instantly regenerate their health, i think its uterly broken and is umplayable, ♥♥♥♥ the demons and ♥♥♥♥ this one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vampire guy can just one tap my ♥♥♥♥ and even if im just able to beat him he just spawns a brand new one in the same turn.

Edit:
Yeah cheers for helping me out people, I mainly posted this outta being pissed but you guys brought up some good points, I will try and use them :D

[A.Pot]

Learn to play. Its been part of the gameplay for the Vampire Counts since the first game that when you defeat one of their armies, you need to destroy the remnants right away or they can potentially come back due to their raise dead ability.

[Kai-ron]

oh yes, our weekly "Vampires are too powerful NERF THEM" thread

OP, look.
You can go look through the forums and find your answer.

This statement comes up about once a week, where a new player complains about 'X' faction being too strong, (was grimgor, now it's usually Vlad)

The ISSUE IS THAT you're not playing to your factions strengths, and/or you're allowing the vamps to play to theirs.

Honestly, I'd like to break it down (again) and explain to you, but honestly its been done repeatedly in this forum (better than I can) for this exact same question, so please just do some research. =)

Oh and be ready, this exact thread usually gets flamed hard.

[SomeGuy1]

well, in defense of OP, it sounds like he is winning the fight and then the "dead rise again" is happening. That by itself is normal, but what is also normal is that if you kill that army a second time in the same turn it gets wiped out for good. Happening three times on a single turn sounds like it's from the vamps being the attacker and losing, which seems like an oversight to me.

[chickabumpbump]

Originally posted by SomeGuy1:

well, in defense of OP, it sounds like he is winning the fight and then the "dead rise again" is happening. That by itself is normal, but what is also normal is that if you kill that army a second time in the same turn it gets wiped out for good. Happening three times on a single turn sounds like it's from the vamps being the attacker and losing, which seems like an oversight to me.

Yeah I once had to fight the same identical army 4 times in 4 turns.

[Kai-ron]

Searching for "VC Nerf" in the steam forums, had 5-6 hits on the first page with similar complaints to the OP.

The answers are always in the same two boats.
A. "Git Gud"
B. (Actual explanation of why VC are tough and how to overcome them)
*Hopefully you get more of the second answer :)

They don't need nerfs at all, you're just playing to their strengths.

Seriously though, Vlad is supposed to be your early to mid game big bad.
He's your warm up to Grimgor and the Chaos forces.

Treat Vlad like an early game invasion, form a coalition, be careful of terrain, use ambushes and take him down with allies.

Once you kick the crap out of him, come back and tell us how it went =)

[Archaon The Never-Chosen]

Originally posted by Kairon:

Searching for "VC Nerf" in the steam forums, had 5-6 hits on the first page with similar complaints to the OP.

The answers are always in the same two boats.
A. "Git Gud"
B. (Actual explanation of why VC are tough and how to overcome them)
*Hopefully you get more of the second answer :)

They don't need nerfs at all, you're just playing to their strengths.

Seriously though, Vlad is supposed to be your early to mid game big bad.
He's your warm up to Grimgor and the Chaos forces.

Treat Vlad like an early game invasion, form a coalition, be careful of terrain, use ambushes and take him down with allies.

Once you kick the crap out of him, come back and tell us how it went =)

Eh VC are easily the strongest endgame crisis because they remax lost armies almost instantly unlike others whom you can actually wear down

[Kai-ron]

Originally posted by Archaon The Never-Chosen:

Originally posted by Kairon:

Treat Vlad like an early game invasion, form a coalition, be careful of terrain, use ambushes and take him down with allies.

Once you kick the crap out of him, come back and tell us how it went =)

Eh VC are easily the strongest endgame crisis because they remax lost armies almost instantly unlike others whom you can actually wear down

Your experience may vary =)
Dwarves or Skaven were always my biggest problem at endgame crisis.

[Saint Jimmy]

You know, the beauty of this game is, you can at anytime play as "them", and understand their strength and weakness...

BUT, with that being said, what i can vouch for good result in most cases is to have more than 1 stack attacking a certain faction/direction.

playing in VH/VH

[Mr.Hmm]

Take a break and play as the vampires to learn their faction then when you have learned their faction go back to your previous game and beat them up.

[hottnova75]

Vampires are weak against multiple armies attacking them at once. Even cheap armies.
They shine when they catch their enemy at a vulnerable point.

In this game, when you think you should send one army, send two. That way you get momentum when your expanding your empire.

Be really careful around large historic battlefields.

[Eldi]

Vampires are great now imo, they have been a bit lackluster for a while.
They are really far from OP in AI hands at least.

Lots of armies but they are so easy to beat on the field, it's practically free xp sometimes.