Getting Drycha (and Coeddil) as Durthu very early

[Paradux]

As far as I can tell from my testing, it is only possible to get Coeddil as Durthu, if you confederate Drycha before she reaches level 7. However even when using the World Roots as early as possible, she is already above level 7 or reaching it during the next turn. The other strategy I tried was making contact with Drycha early by researching Wisdom of the Eagle Lords and activating her confederation quest immediately. I then got the 5 wins over Wood Elves by turn 11, but by then she already was level 9.

Searching didn't turn anything up for WH3. Is there a strategy (I don't mind cheese) to accomplish this or is it just not possible?

[Paradux]

Looking at it again, the technology to reveal her, Wisdom of the Eagle Lords, finishes at turn 6 and it takes an additional turn to activate the quest (turn 7). By that time, she is almost guaranteed to already be level 8. She might not have done her quest by that point, so that might work, if there was a way to somehow win 5 fights against Wood Elves in just turn 7.

[zefyris]

Ironically, it's the change to how much xp lords get in battle that makes it so difficult here. If we were gaining less xp, she wouldn't be above level 7 that fast.

Originally posted by Paradux:

She might not have done her quest by that point, so that might work, if there was a way to somehow win 5 fights against Wood Elves in just turn 7.

AI don't do the quests, they automatically validate them the moment they receive them. So no, it won't work. The only thing in vanilla that could make it work is hoping that Drycha gets defeated in AR so she's dead for a few turns and cannot level up.

[Paradux]

Yeah, I also thought that the increased xp gain is actually hurting this goal.

If the lords would reliably get out of their settlements during turn 7 it might be possible to defeat them in manual battle and let them escape to get two battles out of each army, but they only seem to hang around in their capital.

[Human bean]

What is it with you tik tok crazies and time? Slow and steady, that is how time moves

[Paradux]

what

[Human bean]

Originally posted by Paradux:

what

Meaning sometimes you have to work for it :)

[Paradux]

Very true :). And something weird like that shouldn't be easy, but I was looking for insight from other people since having one turn (a very early one at that) to do 5 battles seems very hard. Maybe someone has other ideas on how to accomplish this.

[Cuthalion]

Well if you do not mind cheese, then just use modding tool https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2791241084 and add Coeddil to yourself once you get Drycha - as if she had him as AI.