IE should not be free, here's why.

[Risotto]

I keep seeing the argument that it will get us more players, but that just isn't true.

Anyone that already wanted to play this game, already have it. There is no one holding out from buying this game or series just because they have to pay the same amount we have to get access to an extra game mode.

Let's face it, this is a niche genre, and giving access to one extra game mode won't bring in extra players.

Also, people are not entitled to extra content for nothing. Video games are a luxury, not a necessity. The TW games go on sale often enough where you can pick up all 3 base games for way cheaper than most of us did.
And if it's still too expensive for you, then maybe your priorities should be elsewhere.

[Monsieur Marley]

Consider with all the marketing and advertising getting people who have not played the previous games to purchase TWW3. They can only play ROC which is hot garbage and frustrating leading them to never touch the game again

Giving them access to IE might get them to actually play the game again and possibly enjoy it which may lead them to purchase dlcs for factions they might be curios about after playing IE.

It's not about giving it away for free for random people, it is about giving the proper map to enjoy for owners of TWW3

[Risotto]

Originally posted by Monsieur Marley:

Consider with all the marketing and advertising getting people who have not played the previous games to purchase TWW3. They can only play ROC which is hot garbage and frustrating leading them to never touch the game again

Giving them access to IE might get them to actually play the game again and possibly enjoy it which may lead them to purchase dlcs for factions they might be curios about after playing IE.

It's not about giving it away for free for random people, it is about giving the proper map to enjoy for owners of TWW3

Then work on improving the RoC map if that is the problem.

Why is the soloution to people not liking a game too just give them another game?

Also, it's a subjective opinion. Me and my friends like the RoC Map.

[A.Pot]

Originally posted by Risotto:

Also, it's a subjective opinion. Me and my friends like the RoC Map.

Found the absolute chad who doesn't break under being pressured to do an objective.

[Zeek]

Risotto with another high quality thread.

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[Captain T1]

Originally posted by Risotto:

Also, it's a subjective opinion. Me and my friends like the RoC Map.

I too didn't mind the RoC map. Could be better though.

[Monsieur Marley]

Ayup, fixing ROC would make the outcry for making IE free redundant. The very first few patches of the game addressed some issues of ROC but never ultimately ended up with it at a good state.

LOTW probably started the drama because he loathes ROC but didn't mention how CA could fix it

[Tenshin51]

People posting on Steam creating stereotype some gamers are too broke to buy all 3 base game even those base games are on sale. Like CA is the only developer selling a boatload of DLC. Seriously why the hell CA and other developers created this kind of business it's definitely profitable for them

Regarding player count strategy game is not that big in general in PC especially there are ton of strategy games. Even this game have Warhammer on it Warhammer IP games are oversaturated.

Crazy part some people wanted to copy a Mobile and MMO game business practice releasing somewhat free game with a ton of locked content. In the long run it will be expensive and predatory system. CA already created this kind of abomination called Total War Arena.

[frielock]

I dont really see the problem, they wouldnt be able to play any of the factions that arent included in base TW3 im assuming, they would just have a big map to play on with those factions?

Like I get CA want to drum up more sales probably IDK if it will or not but whats the big deal about other people getting to play the big map?

[Tenshin51]

Originally posted by frielock:

I dont really see the problem, they wouldnt be able to play any of the factions that arent included in base TW3 im assuming, they would just have a big map to play on with those factions?

Like I get CA want to drum up more sales probably IDK if it will or not but whats the big deal about other people getting to play the big map?

It simple it's false advertisement. It's already stated on their product description. IE suppose to give incentive to players owning 3 base games. IE is technically not a standalone game campaign but a whole package campaign that require you to own 3 base game and it's technically free for players owning 3 base games.

I don't see any wrong on this business practice. Eventually the game will go on sale.

[Nylan]

Originally posted by Tenshin51:

Originally posted by frielock:

I dont really see the problem, they wouldnt be able to play any of the factions that arent included in base TW3 im assuming, they would just have a big map to play on with those factions?

Like I get CA want to drum up more sales probably IDK if it will or not but whats the big deal about other people getting to play the big map?

It simple it's false advertisement. It's already stated on their product description. IE suppose to give incentive to players owning 3 base games. IE is technically not a standalone game campaign but a whole package campaign that require you to own 3 base game and it's technically free for players owning 3 base games.

I don't see any wrong on this business practice. Eventually the game will go on sale.

Completely agree with ya. This entire game was sold from the get go as a 3 part series requiring you buy all 3 to be able to get the combined map. Going back on that at this point would be false advertising.

As for giving other players access to the combined map they have already done that. If they buy game 3 they can join a multiplayer map hosted by someone who owns the full 3 games and try out IE. Don't believe they advertised that way back before WH1, but as a customer that seems fine to me. They aren't giving out the full product to someone who only bought 1/3 of it, instead they let them sample the full product while playing with someone who made the full investment.

As for the OP stating no one is holding out due to the price, well that is wrong. It's minor, but i do have one co-worker who is holding out for that reason. He doesn't have 180$ to drop on the 3 games (though i have pointed out to him when the previous two were on sale in the past two months) so has yet to give this series a try. Sure it's just one potential customer, but if just half the player base knew one would be customer how many is that? Not that i'd agree with giving out access to the full game to anyone who buys only 1/3 of it.

[chickabumpbump]

Is this the new whining gatekeeper topic from the CA boot lickers and the people who say CA ruined their lives?
Arguing over something they already have own and play, for the sake of mythical new masses of players on the horizon, waiting for that moment to join us and play?

Who cares if the player numbers go up suddenly, it doesn’t affect your experience at all and you all need to realise this game is done, other than chaos dwarfs there’s little else to add.

No one outside of the existing players cares about this game, the media don’t care, YouTubers don’t care, review sites don’t care, no one talks about it.

No one is going to jump on if they make something free, nor will It suddenly make the game wonderful or perfect or run or play better. CA need to stop dlc or flc and fix the core basics of what is a rather poor game currently.

[Tenshin51]

Originally posted by chickabumpbump:

Is this the new whining gatekeeper topic from the CA boot lickers and the people who say CA ruined their lives?
Arguing over something they already have own and play, for the sake of mythical new masses of players on the horizon, waiting for that moment to join us and play?

No one outside of the existing players cares about this game, the media don’t care, YouTubers don’t care, review sites don’t care, no one talks about it.

No one is going to jump on if they make something free, nor will It suddenly make the game wonderful or perfect or run or play better. CA need to stop dlc or flc and fix the core basics of what is a rather poor game currently.

I strongly agreed if the player count is low the game is not really that good. This is similar to what happened to Troy Total War which is free for limited time in Epic.

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Originally posted by Risotto:

I keep seeing the argument that it will get us more players, but that just isn't true.

Anyone that already wanted to play this game, already have it. There is no one holding out from buying this game or series just because they have to pay the same amount we have to get access to an extra game mode.

Let's face it, this is a niche genre, and giving access to one extra game mode won't bring in extra players.

Also, people are not entitled to extra content for nothing. Video games are a luxury, not a necessity. The TW games go on sale often enough where you can pick up all 3 base games for way cheaper than most of us did.
And if it's still too expensive for you, then maybe your priorities should be elsewhere.

gonna need to see some evidence

[IonizedMercury]

Originally posted by Joostorm:

Originally posted by Risotto:

I keep seeing the argument that it will get us more players, but that just isn't true.

Anyone that already wanted to play this game, already have it. There is no one holding out from buying this game or series just because they have to pay the same amount we have to get access to an extra game mode.

Let's face it, this is a niche genre, and giving access to one extra game mode won't bring in extra players.

Also, people are not entitled to extra content for nothing. Video games are a luxury, not a necessity. The TW games go on sale often enough where you can pick up all 3 base games for way cheaper than most of us did.
And if it's still too expensive for you, then maybe your priorities should be elsewhere.

gonna need to see some evidence

I would like to see evidence that making IE free would flood the game with new players.

Then I'd see evidence why even if that happened it would be a net-positive for any aspect of the game but multiplayer.

[Flickmann]

Legend of Total War seems to live rent free in many Steam forum users' heads. Trolled ya'll good lmao