Path to Glory - rewritting traits???

[Kai-ron]

(playing Kholek Legend/VH)
When I dedicate an Exalted Hero to a god, (Nurgle/Khorne) The base traits of the hero are wiped out, and new traits appear, as if this is a brand new entity, is this a bug?

I really liked the base traits of my Exalted Heroes, but upgrading them with Path of Glory removed those great traits and got me some really poor re-roll trait, I was very sad since it's legendary, i can't re-roll them again.

Was this supposed to be how the Exalted heroes traits work?

[Dreagon]

I don't know if that's how it's supposed to work but considering they change into an entirely new type of lord/hero it doesn't surprise me that it basically counts it as a completely new character. Those bonuses chaos characters earn also get reset.

[RecalledDread]

No, that's intended. It is technically a new entity I believe. Maybe it could have been done a different way, but unless they make a statement on it, it seems intentional. Same goes for ascending the Lords to Demon Princes.

So base trait and the Boons don't matter in the long run if you are going to dedicate the hero.
I know the God specific WoC factions (Festus etc) get a technology that lets you recruit the god specific ones directly. I don't think I've seen that for the Undivided factions though.

[Pawulon]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

I don't know if that's how it's supposed to work but considering they change into an entirely new type of lord/hero it doesn't surprise me that it basically counts it as a completely new character. Those bonuses chaos characters earn also get reset.

damn, this works that way? This DLC is worse than i thought

[Kai-ron]

interesting....I don't think I like that at all, they become a 'new entity' I suppose, but at the core, its the same mortal, the same soul, so I would think it retains it's base traits.

hoping this is planned to get adjusted for future updates.

[Garatgh Deloi]

The base trait are replaced yes. No idea if heroes keep any traits.

As far as i can tell the only traits lords keep when ascending (either being dedicated or going deamon prince) is legendary lord defeat traits.

That said, for the lords they also get a bonus trait depending on what they were before ascending.

If you (for example) had a Chaos Sorcerer Lord with fire magic that you dedicated and turned into another magic school, he would get a trait that gives him the passive lore of fire buff when casting.

If you instead ascended a Chaos Sorcerer Lord to the same school of magic (So a metal sorcere lord into a Tzeentch metal sorcerer lord) he gets a trait that gave either a cost reduction for spells from that school or a cooldown reduction (i can't remember, both traits exist, you can get the other one later when ascending to deamon prince).

[Kai-ron]

Hmmm.... means that there is a lot less importance on actual starting traits for Exalted heroes that you are going to dedicate, since those and the chaos boons all get reset.

This is disappointing, I really liked the idea of getting one particular Exalted Hero and watching him grow through the ranks into the WoC Elite forces, eventually dedicating him to a god and having that play out nicely.

Right now, it feels like "oh just grab any git until level 5, then hope for a good reroll into some traits and boons you actually want"

Instead of creating and nuturing your own 'mini-archeaon'

[Lady MacBeth]

yes thats how its supposed to work. Works same way for the monogods when you upgrade to a greater deamon. Now I'm not saying its a good design, but the design is intentional, its not a bug.

[dragonfist89]

any help on how to get the game to give me the Path to glory god options I need, I spent 30k until I got Slaneesh sorcerer yesterday :(

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by dragonfist89:

any help on how to get the game to give me the Path to glory god options I need, I spent 30k until I got Slaneesh sorcerer yesterday :(

If its sorcerers it depends on their school of magic (certain schools will always get the option for certain marks). Unless you are playing the special champions of chaos factions (For example: Playing as Vilitch your sorcerers always have the option for the mark of Tzeentch no matter their school of magic).

[Kel'Thuzad]

It might be intentional but I wish they would fix it to keep the original trait.
Sucks losing a good trait like +25% missile resistance for something useless.

It would also be nice to be able to choose one of the three Path to Glory buffs to keep when ascending, so that it feels like the character is actually getting stronger (as opposed to just being reset). It's a fair tradeoff considering the amount of XP they lose.

[lethminite]

For the demons, canonically you are getting a different demon, so it makes sense the traits change, the lord is different.

For the marking, it makes a lot less sense, just because they got a mark of a god shouldn't remove their "hideous visage", they are still just has hideous as before. Though when they ascend it would make sense to lose that, since it's physical, but still doesn't make much sense for personality traits to change.

However, it's clearly intended behaviour, because one of the traits discounts the cost to dedicate the lord, and that trait wouldn't work very well if it didn't get rerolled after dedication.

[Tukanen]

I wholeheartedly agree that it sucks to have your heroes/lord reroll their trait. They get to keep stuff like equipment and legendary defeat traits, so why the rerolling and scrubbing of other traits?
I really hope they change this.