I think Minotaur with great weapons is bugged.

[Krude]

It reminds me of when vampire coast came out and aranessa was three to four hitting legendary lords.

They beat everything, even their hard counters, i've been testing it. It's really weird almost as if they can't NOT deal damage aka always hit. and It seems incredibly over the top damage wise.

[Fryskar]

Like which hardcounters?

2v2, my lord idling nearby. No rearcharging since pointless due to charge def.

VS IB
Obvious from the start that IB won't win easily, but good test for seeing them beeing able to not hit an enemy.
Mino GWs lose after a minute or two. They fail to hit fairly often. The side which the ai lord attacks collapses quicker.

VS PG
Both PG's took minor dmg, Minos broke after 20-30s.

VS BG
One BG took some dmg, the other barly anything at all. Minos broke after maybe 20-30s.

VS Fimrir GW
Close match, depending on the rolls.

Save to say that their hardcounters, well hardcounter them.

Is this the week of people with strange/untested/outright BS claims?

[Krude]

Pretty much everything we've put them against has beaten them with the exception of a couple unique RoR like the phoenix guard that explode on death.

I'm not testing against AI but rather with a friend.

Btw I'm talking about the khorne minotaur with great weapons not the beastmen one.

Also drop the attitude, people like you don't foster a good sense of community, if you getting triggered from as little as this then maybe you should walk away and take a break from the internet.

[FiftyTifty]

Using "triggered" in 2022? Sad and dweeby.

You'll not be bracing against the minotaurs, which gets the trash tier infantry knackered.

[pRaX]

Your thread attracts the degnerates. That means it's a good one. Also "Hi, i'm here now too.".

[Farsha]

Minotaurs have one of the best animations in the game.
They constanly roll around and disturb enemy infantry, so they dish out dmg, while they are rarely hit. Stats are not everything, animations are very important too and some units have way better than others.

This is not new, it was in the game since game one.
But not many people noticed, till Taurox and his Doomstack came in WH2.
His doomstack was pretty insane, not even sure if they kept it in WH3.
Haven't tried him yet, so not sure that, hero trait +10% weapons STR to minos (stacks with each hero) is still around. Taurox, 9 heros with that trait and 10 minos and you are set, nothing can beat it.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

Pretty much everything we've put them against has beaten them with the exception of a couple unique RoR like the phoenix guard that explode on death.

I'm not testing against AI but rather with a friend.

Btw I'm talking about the khorne minotaur with great weapons not the beastmen one.

Also drop the attitude, people like you don't foster a good sense of community, if you getting triggered from as little as this then maybe you should walk away and take a break from the internet.

Khorne doesn't buff them by anything near enough. Did your friend let himself get constantly rearcharged? Thats how they can win relieably against their hardcounter. Or did you simply claim "hardcounter" and used basic empire spears?

Idc about that part in the community you represent. The dudes making BS claims with little proof and even less credibility while beeing plain wrong.

[Krude]

Originally posted by Fryskar:

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

Pretty much everything we've put them against has beaten them with the exception of a couple unique RoR like the phoenix guard that explode on death.

I'm not testing against AI but rather with a friend.

Btw I'm talking about the khorne minotaur with great weapons not the beastmen one.

Also drop the attitude, people like you don't foster a good sense of community, if you getting triggered from as little as this then maybe you should walk away and take a break from the internet.

Khorne doesn't buff them by anything near enough. Did your friend let himself get constantly rearcharged? Thats how they can win relieably against their hardcounter. Or did you simply claim "hardcounter" and used basic empire spears?

Idc about that part in the community you represent. The dudes making BS claims with little proof and even less credibility while beeing plain wrong.

I don't think you understand the point of my topic, instead of fast reading it then getting all passive aggressive about balance, maybe read the part where I say "bugged" instead of "overpowered".

For all we know, it's a mp only bug, or something could be causing a weird out of sync bug between his and my connection, etc

Saying things like "bs claims with little proof" while getting mad about counters when most your point is based on charge defence rather than the context i'm talking about which has to do with afterwards once the melee attack bonus from charging is gone.

Like bro, we get it, you got a stick permanently up your rear causing you to be in a permanent state of irritability but that's your issue, not mine lol <3

Also by community I think it's pretty clear I mean the community on a whole.

[Schizovoker]

minotaurs with gigantic weapons are strong?
wat da?

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

Originally posted by Fryskar:

Khorne doesn't buff them by anything near enough. Did your friend let himself get constantly rearcharged? Thats how they can win relieably against their hardcounter. Or did you simply claim "hardcounter" and used basic empire spears?

Idc about that part in the community you represent. The dudes making BS claims with little proof and even less credibility while beeing plain wrong.

I don't think you understand the point of my topic, instead of fast reading it then getting all passive aggressive about balance, maybe read the part where I say "bugged" instead of "overpowered".

For all we know, it's a mp only bug, or something could be causing a weird out of sync bug between his and my connection, etc

Saying things like "bs claims with little proof" while getting mad about counters when most your point is based on charge defence rather than the context i'm talking about which has to do with afterwards once the melee attack bonus from charging is gone.

Like bro, we get it, you got a stick permanently up your rear causing you to be in a permanent state of irritability but that's your issue, not mine lol <3

Also by community I think it's pretty clear I mean the community on a whole.

They aren't bugged and neither OP.

[Krude]

Originally posted by Char Aznable:

minotaurs with gigantic weapons are strong?
wat da?

You say that but there's youtube videos out there with that as it's title that I found when I was looking to see if anyone had that issue so stop the cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTHTSbjO8CQ

(Also here is an article where they are ranked first https://qtoptens.com/warhammer-3-best-khorne-units/)

Here, in case you think i'm bs'ing you like the other special case in this thread, this is from pre dlc but honestly can't see them doing their role less well from getting a mark of khorne.

While their price is quite high, there really isn't anything weak about 77 ap and they are definitely something you want to deal with well lol.

Also, again as I have to state for the xth time, my issue is not with balance but with what I think is a bug I've noticed alongside one other person whom I've been testing with.

Like literally by definition, objectively speaking, Fryskar is making a statement as fact that can't be genuine because by the nature of a bug it doesn't mean it HAS to manifest the same way, for example it could be something that affects only some users, or under certain conditions.

His special replies are in the same vein as people who reply "it works for me so it's not the games fault" to others who complain about a bug or performance issue with a game.

It's honestly for that reason that I'm calling your bs out Fryskar and whatever opinion you have I'd rather not hear it, It seems hard for you to see the nuances in what is being said so just don't bother, your absolutes are unhelpful and you are providing this topic absolutely nothing of worth except derailing it.

Literally if I never got a reply from you or heard from you ever again I currently feel like I would lose nothing, if anything, maybe gain some time instead of having to waste it on you.

Hell I'm not even sure if you are testing things properly your end, for all I know with your lack of attention to detail you might have combat difficulty set wrong against the AI that you are testing against, not that it would probably matter when discussing a bug rather than balance lol.

Anyway, not interested in your opinion, I have something to say and you have simply gotten in the way.

Like legit, deal with it mate and move on, I'm not interested.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

Originally posted by Char Aznable:

minotaurs with gigantic weapons are strong?
wat da?

You say that but there's youtube videos out there with that as it's title that I found when I was looking to see if anyone had that issue so stop the cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTHTSbjO8CQ

(Also here is an article where they are ranked first https://qtoptens.com/warhammer-3-best-khorne-units/)

Here, in case you think i'm bs'ing you like the other special case in this thread, this is from pre dlc but honestly can't see them doing their role less well from getting a mark of khorne.

While their price is quite high, there really isn't anything weak about 77 ap and they are definitely something you want to deal with well lol.

Also, again as I have to state for the xth time, my issue is not with balance but with what I think is a bug I've noticed alongside one other person whom I've been testing with.

Like literally by definition, objectively speaking, Fryskar is making a statement as fact that can't be genuine because by the nature of a bug it doesn't mean it HAS to manifest the same way, for example it could be something that affects only some users, or under certain conditions.

His special replies are in the same vein as people who reply "it works for me so it's not the games fault" to others who complain about a bug or performance issue with a game.

It's honestly for that reason that I'm calling your bs out Fryskar and whatever opinion you have I'd rather not hear it, It seems hard for you to see the nuances in what is being said so just don't bother, your absolutes are unhelpful and you are providing this topic absolutely nothing of worth except derailing it.

Literally if I never got a reply from you or heard from you ever again I currently feel like I would lose nothing, if anything, maybe gain some time instead of having to waste it on you.

Hell I'm not even sure if you are testing things properly your end, for all I know with your lack of attention to detail you might have combat difficulty set wrong against the AI that you are testing against, not that it would probably matter when discussing a bug rather than balance lol.

Anyway, not interested in your opinion, I have something to say and you have simply gotten in the way.

Like legit, deal with it mate and move on, I'm not interested.

That vid isn't helping your point "minos defeat hardcounters", none of these units are hardcounters.

[Krude]

No offence meant but are you autistic? would explain a lot because you are having some issues understanding the point & context here. That video wasn't for you it was for someone elses reply, the later part is to you.

Move on mate lol.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

No offence meant but are you autistic? would explain a lot because you are having some issues understanding the point & context here. That video wasn't for you it was for someone elses reply, the later part is to you.

Move on mate lol.

Lol, i was right from the start. Its just another of these troll threads where op writes down some BS and then thinks that hurling insults would help.
Keep trying, troll.

[Krude]

Originally posted by Fryskar:

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

No offence meant but are you autistic? would explain a lot because you are having some issues understanding the point & context here. That video wasn't for you it was for someone elses reply, the later part is to you.

Move on mate lol.

Lol, i was right from the start. Its just another of these troll threads where op writes down some BS and then thinks that hurling insults would help.
Keep trying, troll.

Nah it was a legitimate question, if you were autistic I'd have understood why you are the way you are and not held it against you.

I'm not the one anally holding onto an irrelevant part of my point and being a clown.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Plastic.Luv:

Originally posted by Fryskar:

Lol, i was right from the start. Its just another of these troll threads where op writes down some BS and then thinks that hurling insults would help.
Keep trying, troll.

Nah it was a legitimate question, if you were autistic I'd have understood why you are the way you are and not held it against you.

I'm not the one anally holding onto an irrelevant part of my point and being a clown.

Keep going troll, those sweet awards don't come for free.