Azazel vs Sigvald

[Faptor]

Sigvald is at least 500x more handsome than Azazel! How dare CA claim Azazels beauty is "second only to his patron Slaanesh."
Not only is Sigvald truely magnificent but he gives great speeches also, all Azazel has is twin wiener tails. Compensating for SOMETHING? I think soooo.

TLDR: Azazel pp smol, Sigvald PP Magnificent and ultra tall.

Special mention to my boi Festus, hes got a big heart and loves sharing gifts.

[burningmime]

If you painted him red, he would look like a decent Khorne general.

But expect at least 20 people jumping in with in-lore explanations about glamours or something instead of addressing the visual design at all.

[ViiMeineN]

Well Azazel is a daemon and sigvald is not .
Slanneshi daemons have that kind of battles form which they use to terrorize their enemies
And and overall beauty form for smashy smashes
Overall cool post bro
I Agree on the festus part ngl

[ViiMeineN]

Originally posted by burningmime:

If you painted him red, he would look like a decent Khorne general.

But expect at least 20 people jumping in with in-lore explanations about glamours or something instead of addressing the visual design at all.

He looks like a Disney villain
Also he looks like maoi from Moana animation

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by burningmime:

If you painted him red, he would look like a decent Khorne general.

But expect at least 20 people jumping in with in-lore explanations about glamours or something instead of addressing the visual design at all.

The only issue I have with his design is that his face looks pretty goofy and uncanny. Otherwise though I do like the direction they went with his design as Slaanesh daemons true forms are not supposed to look beautiful. If anything they’re supposed to look closer to cenobites than traditionally attractive people.

[Faptor]

Originally posted by ViiMeineN:

He looks like a Disney villain

Yeah man! Like, my main demon prince looked more handsome and slaaneshi-style-seductive than Azazel.
I think its the weird tiny baby pointy ears, they are pointed at a strange angle. His face is also sorta blocky and not very cute.

I get hes a demon but the daemonettes got it going on, a perfect blend of extreme body/psychological horror and seduction...
Idk, unless they do something really awesome with him like giving him cool voice lines or super cool upgrades im going to be dissapointed.

[Faptor]

Originally posted by NixAhmose:

The only issue I have with his design is that his face looks pretty goofy and uncanny. Otherwise though I do like the direction they went with his design as Slaanesh daemons true forms are not supposed to look beautiful. If anything they’re supposed to look closer to cenobites than traditionally attractive people.

Thats sorta the whole thing about them, just like the cenobites.
"The Cenobites gave me an experience beyond limits. Pain and pleasure, indivisible."

I think you nailed it with the "Face", its more silly than scary/seductive... idk, im trying to put my finger on it.

Edit: Just watched his trailer and I think its the eyes. I mean his whole face but the wee beady eyes dont help. "His eyes are full of innocence and yet they are cruel, calculating and without pity." and beady eyes just make a person think "cruel, calculating and without pity." with zero innocence.

[Jack Deth]

Originally posted by burningmime:

If you painted him red, he would look like a decent Khorne general.

But expect at least 20 people jumping in with in-lore explanations about glamours or something instead of addressing the visual design at all.

Well.

You do actually have lore reasons. Even if we don't include the Liber Chaotica.

That's just a fact.

The other route is.

"Hey boss I finished that model. Just like you asked"

<Baws>"What? This looks terrible what do we pay you for?"

"oh, well..it fits the theme because you know they're daemons, Slaanesh would have different standards and I really want to keep this job".

<Baws>" Makes sense, good job keep up the good work and you'll be in charge of making not Sphess Mahreens for a future fantasy setting project".

Thinking a bit back Slaanesh outside of the Diaz stuff was always generally worse. Some of the AoS models do look ok though. If I recall the time Azazel was done was also what I considered a dark time for Khorne.

If I remember right the Bloodthirsters also had a similar almost goofy tiki mask look to them, where as before they had those rad dog heads.

[burningmime]

Originally posted by The Skull:

Originally posted by burningmime:

If you painted him red, he would look like a decent Khorne general.

But expect at least 20 people jumping in with in-lore explanations about glamours or something instead of addressing the visual design at all.

Well.

You do actually have lore reasons. Even if we don't include the Liber Chaotica.

That's just a fact.

Sure; the lore explains it. But that assumes...

A) the lore is absolutely correct and can't be sacrificed/changed to improve visual appeal.
B) that models in game (and tabletop) must show the "true" forms and not the glamored ones, even though every other race gets to have its magic represented visually.
C) That the "loreful" version is visually appealing, interesting, and well-designed.

How many people arguing for "loreful slaanesh" are also huge fans of the end times and AoS? Just because someone at GW wrote it in a book somewhere doesn't mean it's perfect and God's gift to mankind.

The other route is.

"Hey boss I finished that model. Just like you asked"

<Baws>"What? This looks terrible what do we pay you for?"

"oh, well..it fits the theme because you know they're daemons, Slaanesh would have different standards and I really want to keep this job".

<Baws>" Makes sense, good job keep up the good work and you'll be in charge of making not Sphess Mahreens for a future fantasy setting project".

Thinking a bit back Slaanesh outside of the Diaz stuff was always generally worse. Some of the AoS models do look ok though. If I recall the time Azazel was done was also what I considered a dark time for Khorne.

If I remember right the Bloodthirsters also had a similar almost goofy tiki mask look to them, where as before they had those rad dog heads.

That's probably how it happened. Although really there may have been some proposals to make him look a bit more like this...

https://i.redd.it/29momj5ofoo61.jpg

And they were shot down because it's suppsoed to be a kids game or something.

[Faptor]

Originally posted by burningmime:

https://i.redd.it/29momj5ofoo61.jpg

And they were shot down because it's suppsoed to be a kids game or something.

Thats probably it. Im not nearly as into fantasy as I am 40k but games workshop has been sorta walking back the whole "extreme sexual horror/deviancy" of slaanesh for a while now, at least for fantasy, or so ive read from fantasy fans.

Hell, even in 40k its been toned down a bit but thats what made Slaanesh fun and unique haha Anyone can do drugs and anyone can listen to loud music but can you do drugs, listen to a cacophony while participating in a orgy in the middle of a planetary war?

I get the whole quest for a wider audience thing but taking away what makes warhammer so weird and fun to do so is just lame. Maybe they did for even worse reasons like, to make the game "StReAmEr" friendly or something. Like, I could even sorta understand the kids angle and not wanting billy and suzy to see a 7' wang impaling people to death but the streamer aspect would really fry me.

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

Saying that other races get their magic represented in visuals, not a single illusionary effect shows up in the game.

Dryads do not appear as beautiful women when you’re playing as Bretonnia.

Daemonettes do not appear as beautiful women to other races.

Hellebron is still old af murder granny.

Azazel looks badass, an improved version of his original model. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and apparently he’s #2 to Slaanesh.

Also Sigvald weak, he has smoll pp energy, and he got smashed and pissed on by Throgg for being a weak little punk.

[Faptor]

Originally posted by Rhinopotamus:

Saying that other races get their magic represented in visuals, not a single illusionary effect shows up in the game.

Daemonettes do not appear as beautiful women to other races.

Hellebron is still old af murder granny.

You're 100% right on Azazel, bro. No one could ever disagree. I bet you are just as handsome as Sigvald.

Also Sigvald is the best, he has mighty, proud and seriously impressive pp energy, and he totally could of smashed and pissed on Throgg (smol pp) but was distracted by his own beauty and massive phallus.

Daemonettes are beautiful inside and out.

Whats your beef with cougar Hellebron?

im glad we agree on Sigvald though.

[burningmime]

Originally posted by Rhinopotamus:

not a single illusionary effect shows up in the game.

Stop making stuff up. Quick glance through the spellbook....

Aspect of the Dreadknight - An invisible aura of horror surrounds the Wizard's allies. Only the bravest foes now stand before him.
Harmonic Convergence - Divining auspicious signs, the caster guides the minds of targets, augmenting them with the foresight needed for victory.
The Enfeebling Foe - When cast, this spell enfeebles enemy minds; they feel the crushing weight of reality bearing down upon them.
The Withering - The Wizard destroys their enemies from within, corroding foes' minds with doubt and crisis.
Wind of Death - The Wizard can caste forth spectral winds that howl through the enemy ranks, tearing their souls from their bodies.
Traitor-Kin - The Bray-Shaman drives a spear of wrath into enemy hearts, unlocking the beast within and causing them to turn against their own.
Arcane Unforging - Unseen fingers seep into cracks in armour, attacking the wearers.
Harmonic Convergence - Divining auspicious signs, the caster guides the minds of targets, augmenting them with the foresight needed for victory.

Strange how all those spells have visual effects, huh? Clearly, they should be invisible.

[-<MisFits>- High on Death]

bruh wdym, that's what the lore says man

[Silvertongued Devil]

Originally posted by burningmime:

That's probably how it happened. Although really there may have been some proposals to make him look a bit more like this...

https://i.redd.it/29momj5ofoo61.jpg

And they were shot down because it's suppsoed to be a kids game or something.

I 100,000% need this Sigvald in my life. That's so goofy and perfect and I want absolutely nothing else besides his personal guard and their mirror shields so he can adore himself mid-combat instead of fighting because he's too pretty to be bothered with petty concerns like warfare.

Also if Sigvald isn't immune to blood being on him, I will be disappointed.

[burningmime]

Originally posted by Silvertongued Devil:

Originally posted by burningmime:

That's probably how it happened. Although really there may have been some proposals to make him look a bit more like this...

https://i.redd.it/29momj5ofoo61.jpg

And they were shot down because it's suppsoed to be a kids game or something.

I 100,000% need this Sigvald in my life. That's so goofy and perfect and I want absolutely nothing else besides his personal guard and their mirror shields so he can adore himself mid-combat instead of fighting because he's too pretty to be bothered with petty concerns like warfare.

Also if Sigvald isn't immune to blood being on him, I will be disappointed.

That's supposed to be Azazel, not Sigvald. I think it is a custom model made of parts not a Games Workshop design.