DLC Daemon Lords

[Seven Samurott]

Aside from the named Herald characters, such as Epidemius and the Blue Scribes, what other Daemonic LL could they add to th monogod factions? I know there are other named Greater Daemons but that seems kinda meh.

Frankly, I thought Valkia and Azazel would be monogod factions since they're Daemon Princes. A lot of the interesting lore characters, like the Glottkin, are Daemon Princes but it seems like they're going to be part of the WoC in the future.

What do y'all think will be in store for the monogod factions?

[jonoliveira12]

The Mardaag, google it.

[ϺEƳEƦ]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

The Mardaag, google it.

If CA actually ends up doing this I am going to be very excited. I feel like it's a long shot though.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by ϺEƳEƦ:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

The Mardaag, google it.

:100: If CA actually ends up doing this I am going to be very excited. I feel like it's a long shot though.

It is one of those obscure characters that is actually underrated.

Even Archaon chose not to assault the Mardaag's fortress, because he actually feared losing his whole horde, to such an enemy, and by that point he was punting even Greater Daemons.

We will probably get something boring, like Ka'bandha, with his entire legion of Bloodthirsters, even though it would just be a Skarbrand reskin with a bonus to an already doomstacky unit.

[GalloglassCA]

Not all lords who end up in monogods will be greater daemons. CA has talked about this.

[Seven Samurott]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by ϺEƳEƦ:

:100: If CA actually ends up doing this I am going to be very excited. I feel like it's a long shot though.

It is one of those obscure characters that is actually underrated.

Even Archaon chose not to assault the Mardaag's fortress, because he actually feared losing his whole horde, to such an enemy, and by that point he was punting even Greater Daemons.

We will probably get something boring, like Ka'bandha, with his entire legion of Bloodthirsters, even though it would just be a Skarbrand reskin with a bonus to an already doomstacky unit.

The Mardaag does look cool. But yeah, aside from those named Heralds, it just seems like all that would be available are Greater Daemon reskins. I honestly thought Bel'akor would have been a Daemon Faction considering he kinda replaced Malal in the lore.

[Seven Samurott]

Originally posted by LizzyInAbox:

Not all lords who end up in monogods will be greater daemons.

Possibly, but it seems like an oversight not to have Valkia and Azazel as monogod faction leaders. I would have rather seen Arbaal for Khorne and Dechala for Slaanesh.

[WhySoSalty]

not really a lot of daemonic characters left. there are greater deamons light like Kabanda, Sslivox, Amon Chakai but as you said they are just meh. Herold will come for sure but hopefully as FLC (Skulltaker, Epidemius, Blue Scribes, The Masque)
Mortals are actually the characters with a huge amount of lore, minis, rules etc so its just logical that the monogods will get atleast one mortal each like Dechala, Tamurkhan, Arbaal, Egrimm van Horstman etc) and if they somehow can make it possible that the monos can confederate the champions of chaos ala. Skarbrand can confed Valkia etc then the monos are in a perfect spot LL-wise

[GalloglassCA]

Originally posted by Seven Samurott:

Originally posted by LizzyInAbox:

Not all lords who end up in monogods will be greater daemons.

Possibly, but it seems like an oversight not to have Valkia and Azazel as monogod faction leaders. I would have rather seen Arbaal for Khorne and Dechala for Slaanesh.

It wasn't an oversight, it was deliberate. They stated that they are going to put future lords where they see fit.

[DarthHammer]

I think CA's rationale behind Valkia and Azazel being WoC is that they both lead mortal warriors and daemons in the lore, and since they can get both as a WoC faction but not as a monogod faction they were set as WoC.

[Seven Samurott]

Originally posted by DarthHammer:

I think CA's rationale behind Valkia and Azazel being WoC is that they both lead mortal warriors and daemons in the lore, and since they can get both as a WoC faction but not as a monogod faction they were set as WoC.

I guess, but at the same time more mortal units were added to the monogod rosters when IE hit so they could still be leading mixed armies.

[Seven Samurott]

Personally, I always felt it was a mistake to separate the Daemons into their own army book. I always preferred the Hordes of Chaos model where if you picked a mortal lord your mortal units were the backbone of your army. While if you had a Daemonic lord, Daemons were your core units.

I mean at this point the Daemon factions in the game feel more like gimped Warriors of Chaos factions. But one of the issues with the Chaos factions in general was they TOO much variety so they never had a true faction identity on the TT.

[abyssalfury]

The whole WoC/DoC (in Warhammer 3) is just due to the shift in design between WH1 and WH3 - I suspect mostly pushed by Games Workshop deciding they prefer individual armies for the gods (and I suspect we'll see WH3 style god aligned armies in the Old World). Realistically though, at this stage I'd expect all new LLs to go to their respective aligned faction, regardless of whether they are Daemon or mortal.

Based on that assumption, and the assumption they want to hit 4 Lords, which seems to be the minimum, I'd expect:

Khorne
Skulltaker
Arbaal the Undefeated
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Several of Khorne's characters aren't really suitable as Legendary Lords (e.g. Scylla). So it's a case of whether they try to do something different to implement them, or just go for someone else, of which there's a couple of options. Otherwise, there's a couple of mentions of Arbaal so I think he's likely. The Heralds seem 100% FLC fodder.



Tzeentch
The Blue Scribes
Engrimm Van Horstmann
The Changeling
I'd be kind of surprised if this isn't what we get. Again the Changeling and Engrimm have been mentioned in game, so I think they are likely.


Nurgle
Epidemius
Glottkin
Tamurkhan

Same as Tzeentch, these seem to be the obvious choices. Only real reason I'd see it going different is if they have issues implementing the Glottkin/Tamurkhan.


Slaanesh
The Masque
Dechala
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Aka 'whoever they can get'. Seems like Styrkaar is probably the most likely basically by default, though they could throw a curveball and go with something like importing Shalaxi.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by abyssalfury:

The whole WoC/DoC (in Warhammer 3) is just due to the shift in design between WH1 and WH3 - I suspect mostly pushed by Games Workshop deciding they prefer individual armies for the gods (and I suspect we'll see WH3 style god aligned armies in the Old World).

Not really. GW themselves did the WoC and DoC subdivision in the later editions (I think 8th) of TT. What's new is giving the individuals gods their own factions rather than having them all under the WoC or DoC umbrella and leaving it up to the players to make pure monogod armies. This might be the case in AoS, but Warhammer Fantasy never gave the Chaos gods their own individual factions.

[Seven Samurott]

Scylla and The Changeling would make great Legendary Heroes I think.

[ϺEƳEƦ]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by ϺEƳEƦ:

If CA actually ends up doing this I am going to be very excited. I feel like it's a long shot though.

It is one of those obscure characters that is actually underrated.

Even Archaon chose not to assault the Mardaag's fortress, because he actually feared losing his whole horde, to such an enemy, and by that point he was punting even Greater Daemons.

We will probably get something boring, like Ka'bandha, with his entire legion of Bloodthirsters, even though it would just be a Skarbrand reskin with a bonus to an already doomstacky unit.

I love lore behind the character, as well as its look. It is a really nice change of pace to have a greater deamon design that isnt a blood therester. In my opinion it's adding obscure things like this that keep the game fresh and interesting. The game has been out so long that we are getting into the dangerous territory of redundancy. It's only going to be through adding truly different types of characters that we can avoid that happening.

I agree that CA will most likely play it safe and give us another named blood therster/herald or chaos lord. I'm still hoping they surprise us though.