AI turns slow and laggy after 100+ turns

[Samikaz]

Hello here,

I might be one of the lucky person that the game doesn't crash at the end of turn. However, my issue is that after 100 turns+, the game start to become very slow. Especially when there are like 90 factions lefts. I wonder if it's just because too many armies to manage at that point.

Just to clarify, at the start of the game the AI turns take like 10 to 20 sec and I can still move around.
After 100+ turns the game lag and AI turns take like 30 to 1 min. Sometime even more.

I didn't have that issue before that update.

Any else having that issue?

[Teamster]

That's always been an "issue" since way back in the day before warhammer 3. What I mean by "issue" is that I suspect it's just an unavoidable consequence of the player seeing more of the map and having encountered more factions. An undiscovered faction can essentially be simulated through simple dice rolls of what happens and who comes out on top. When the player starts discovering the other factions they have to actually put an AI to work simulating real moves and such. In turn that takes longer than simple rolls of a dice.

Whether or not that is what's happening I can't say for sure.

EDIT: And of course the animations of units running around and the camera having to pan all over the map will take more time than not having to run animations and panning the camera. Depending on your end turn settings, that might be a significant contributor to long end turn times.

[FiftyTifty]

That's not the cause. I did some testing, and found that the more wars there are, the slower the turns. I made five chaos factions at war with every other faction in the game at turn 1, and the turns took about 3 or 4 minutes to complete.

Without the wars? 15 seconds.

[Samikaz]

Thanks for replying. I get that. But it never happened in TWH2. I wonder if the game just cannot handle 2k. my FPS never go down either. I am always constantly at 100+ even in the map and the AI turns loading.
I guess it will take some optimisations and hopefully when IE is fully released, this might not be as bad.

[FiftyTifty]

It did happen in TWW2, at least, if you used mods that buffed the AI. This was notorious with Better AI 2, as the AI had much more resources and was more aggressive.

Oh and if you used those chaos invasion multiplier mods...Whew.

[rotax]

Originally posted by Samikaz:

Thanks for replying. I get that. But it never happened in TWH2. I wonder if the game just cannot handle 2k. my FPS never go down either. I am always constantly at 100+ even in the map and the AI turns loading.
I guess it will take some optimisations and hopefully when IE is fully released, this might not be as bad.

it did happen in WH2.

its just a natural progression, start of the game there 1/2 armies per faction, its just one turn.
when you start having multiple factions all with 5+ armies that each calculation for each individual army per faction, its obviously going to start to slow down.
its no different to the player having to move 1 army, compared to moving multiple armies late game, it just takes longer.

[Samikaz]

Maybe longer turn but unit lagging on the campaign map, I don't recall that at all and I was playing with a 10+ mods.

[Problem Solver]

Turn # 259 for me. It takes 20 sec.

[Catpuppy]

Using the fast forward function or selecting camera settings and making neutral and allied factions (at least) to Camera on Lords -> Off will alleviate the issue considerably.

[Samikaz]

Thank you, I will try this.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by FiftyTifty:

It did happen in TWW2, at least, if you used mods that buffed the AI. This was notorious with Better AI 2, as the AI had much more resources and was more aggressive.

Oh and if you used those chaos invasion multiplier mods...Whew.

X10 chaos invasion first wave alone could easily take 20-30 seconds for me lol.

Even more when Archeon arrived with his stacks.

[Rock]

Originally posted by Problem Solver:

Turn # 259 for me. It takes 20 sec.

Don't have to process turn if everyone is DEAD