Does anyone even like battle realism???

[killtastic201]

IMO the main attraction to a legendary campaign is that it's a iron man campaign, etc. Honestly though battle realism is just annoying. All it's really doing is gutting out QOL features and adding in annoying nuisances like limited camera panning. I'm currently on turn 130+ of a legendary campaign, and I just don't have the motivation to slog through another battle with the awkward camera, no minimap, and no slow down / battle pause. these changes don't make the game harder, so much as they just make it less fun to play. Imo battle realism shouldn't be forcibly checked for legendary.

[Relent]

Full confession that I don't play on Legendary because I'm a wimp (H/VH for me), but I have to agree that battle realism is really unpleasant to play with. If it's ticked by default on Legendary, then I guess I won't be trying that difficulty anytime soon specifically for that reason.

I really don't get the reasoning behind battle realism, as it doesn't actually bring anything useful to the table. It feels like it makes things more frustrating for the sake of being frustrating.

[killtastic201]

Originally posted by Relent:

Full confession that I don't play on Legendary because I'm a wimp (H/VH for me), but I have to agree that battle realism is really unpleasant to play with. If it's ticked by default on Legendary, then I guess I won't be trying that difficulty anytime soon specifically for that reason.

I really don't get the reasoning behind battle realism, as it doesn't actually bring anything useful to the table. It feels like it makes things more frustrating for the sake of being frustrating.

also I don't really understand what makes it "realistic"... whats realistic about watching dinosaurs fight demons, and commanding the battle from 2000 feat in the air? lol.

[ArchAnge1LT]

i would like it if they fkin removed that camera lock, it is super annoying.

[BiteSizeCenter]

Yeah I'll be honest, I just can't play with battle realism enabled. I'm an absolute scrub at the RTS side of this game, and I'll get like half my army wiped out if I try to micro everything without pausing.

I wouldn't mind if CA allowed us to play on legendary without battle realism enabled, but I did find a mod that allows you to do so. So that's what I've been using.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789864892

[killtastic201]

Originally posted by BiteSizeCenter:

Yeah I'll be honest, I just can't play with battle realism enabled. I'm an absolute scrub at the RTS side of this game, and I'll get like half my army wiped out if I try to micro everything without pausing.

I wouldn't mind if CA allowed us to play on legendary without battle realism enabled, but I did find a mod that allows you to do so. So that's what I've been using.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789864892

Thank you so much dude. I whish I had known about this mod earlier.

[Velber]

I don’t, I like using the slow motion thingy, both for micromanaging and for general coolness watching the fights

[Bhelliom]

Being unable to pause is fine, being unable to move the camera in a settlement battle in a normal fashion is just horrible. You can move it from the LOS area of your unit group 1 let´s say, and the unit group 2 is JUST nearby, but the camera won´t move naturally to them. You gotta press 2 or doubleclick their banner to center on them instead. Just dumb.

Edit: Also yes, Ironman is the top allure of playing Leg over VH. A simple "ironman" feature could even make lower diffs fun, potentially.

Edit: Had to add, of course being unable to pause / slow down and give orders does in fact make the game harder. Hard doesn´t mean = "like playing a GM in chess!".

[BiteSizeCenter]

Originally posted by killtastic201:

Thank you so much dude. I whish I had known about this mod earlier.

It's not a perfect solution. If you pause too frequently while trying to cast spells or abilities it'll cause the audio to glitch out. Only solution I've found for it is to restart the game at that point. I've been trying to get better at micro'ing without pausing just so I can avoid that glitch lol.

Other than that it's great though.

[Zeek]

I dont like it since I play late night buzzed a lot of time and don't want to have my dudes die cause I get distracted with looking at the fights lol

[Lady MacBeth]

I like to pause. The other stuff it does isn't a big deal. But losing pause I don't like. I'm more of a civilization and turned base strategy girl. So yeah, pause, and issue orders when theres alot going on. Thats the life for me.

[huey30]

It didnt really bother me in WHII but the camera seems worse in 3 and drives me crazy. Although lately ive been playing on VH and i still never pause the game. Not because im against it but because Ive been playing on legendary for so long that i forget that i can actually pause lol

[Arthur two sheds Jackson]

limiting camera feature in realism never made sense to me because the camera itself will never be realistic its not realistic to have a perfect top view of the battlefield to begin with

[Gooseman]

Originally posted by killtastic201:

Originally posted by Relent:

Full confession that I don't play on Legendary because I'm a wimp (H/VH for me), but I have to agree that battle realism is really unpleasant to play with. If it's ticked by default on Legendary, then I guess I won't be trying that difficulty anytime soon specifically for that reason.

I really don't get the reasoning behind battle realism, as it doesn't actually bring anything useful to the table. It feels like it makes things more frustrating for the sake of being frustrating.

also I don't really understand what makes it "realistic"... whats realistic about watching dinosaurs fight demons, and commanding the battle from 2000 feat in the air? lol.

Originally posted by Arthur two sheds Jackson:

limiting camera feature in realism never made sense to me because the camera itself will never be realistic its not realistic to have a perfect top view of the battlefield to begin with

It's not. It just penalizes the player and buffs it's own units to give advantage to the AI. It's already difficult to manage really big battles with all the abilities so removing those tools just makes the game more annoying. There's no special achievement for Legendary (As far as I know) and there is a good possibility your save could get corrupted so considering the massive investment of time with these games playing that way doesn't make sense to me. If people want to be masochists that's fine though.

In the historical titles modders typically made battles more "realistic" by making them longer (Lowering hit chance etc...) so you're guys actually slug it out for a while before breaking. Med 2 was like this by default and units would typically only rout quickly when charged by cav in the rear.

[DaddyJokee]

I dont use it because I don't trust it not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up my game. Back in Rome 2 I used it, unlimited time and battle realism and it ruined my campaign. From then, I never do it.

[Red-_-Monkey]

Funny thing is I mostly use pause for qaulity of life and it's often the only way to admire battles close up. I switched on battle realism today and just found it to be a nuisance whilst adding no real challenge. I suppose it's just for bragging rights.

"I only play on the hardest difficulty, don't you know?", also has 20 mods that make the game easier*