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JoeVonFo 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 3:28
Azazel vs Sigvald vs N'kari. Most fun "Slaanesh" campaign
Hi guys

I want to play an immortal empires campaign in the name of glorious Slaanesh.

If any of you have played as more than one of these characters I'd love to hear your opinions on which campaign was the most enjoyable and why.

On one hand I kinda like N'kari being able to get all the actual Slaanesh units (Slaaneshi marauders, instead of just marked marauders etc), but on the other hand the warriors of chaos building system seems best suited for Slaanesh in comparison to the other gods, due to how charming his minions are, thereby making them better at obtaining vassals.

What's your take?
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The Sand Witch 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 3:30 
Azazel is buggy right now or so I heard. N'kari is all about corruption and spamming cultists (meh) apparently.

Sigvald is an average lord fighting with some decent contenders early, he has a little challenge. That would be my take
Roflberries 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 4:09 
Sigvald's campaign feels off to me. They only gave him some of the Slaanesh faction benefits, but he is still an undivided faction.

That means there comes a point where you can't maintain Slaaneshi corruption in your regions because your buildings all generate undivided corruption. He also uses the undivided tech tree.
Hypathia 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 4:15 
Perhaps him being a Slaaneshi lord instead of a Warriors of Chaos lord would make him, more interesting? Also adding a unique mechanic or two. We got Azazel representing our Dark Prince anyway.
zefyris 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 4:23 
N'Kari. the lord himself is super satisfying on battle map, and his mechanics have very high synergy with one another, making him one of the strongest faction in the game as well as a very satisfying and enjoyable faction to play as.
The others aren't half bad though. But the WoC mechanics kit mixed with some Slaanesh monogod kit, while interesting, provide less synergies than the full fledged Slaanesh monogod kit.

Also if playing on IE, starting in Ulthuan is so, so thematic for N'Kari.
最后由 zefyris 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 4:26
The Sand Witch 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 6:47 
引用自 Roflberries
Sigvald's campaign feels off to me. They only gave him some of the Slaanesh faction benefits, but he is still an undivided faction.

That means there comes a point where you can't maintain Slaaneshi corruption in your regions because your buildings all generate undivided corruption. He also uses the undivided tech tree.

Through research you can spread slaaneshi corruption when using slaaneshi gifts so that fixes it.
But, yeah, I did not like it too much neither. Not a big fan of dorian gray and even less so that N'Kari is mad badass and slaaneshi demons are quite neat, too.
yuzhonglu 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:33 
There's a lot of hot elven chicks near N'Kari's start position.
JoeVonFo 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:37 
引用自 zefyris
N'Kari. the lord himself is super satisfying on battle map, and his mechanics have very high synergy with one another, making him one of the strongest faction in the game as well as a very satisfying and enjoyable faction to play as.
The others aren't half bad though. But the WoC mechanics kit mixed with some Slaanesh monogod kit, while interesting, provide less synergies than the full fledged Slaanesh monogod kit.

Also if playing on IE, starting in Ulthuan is so, so thematic for N'Kari.

Yeah I was leaning towards N'kari as well, although Azazel is quite nice as well.. Really love that he's a small (non-large) model, but N'kari is quite awesome, although made of glass :D

One other thing that's quite alluring about Azazel is the inclusion of chaos cannons though.
"Come to me children... Or I shall blast you to pieces!"
最后由 JoeVonFo 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:37
zefyris 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:45 
引用自 JoeVonFo
引用自 zefyris
N'Kari. the lord himself is super satisfying on battle map, and his mechanics have very high synergy with one another, making him one of the strongest faction in the game as well as a very satisfying and enjoyable faction to play as.
The others aren't half bad though. But the WoC mechanics kit mixed with some Slaanesh monogod kit, while interesting, provide less synergies than the full fledged Slaanesh monogod kit.

Also if playing on IE, starting in Ulthuan is so, so thematic for N'Kari.

Yeah I was leaning towards N'kari as well, although Azazel is quite nice as well.. Really love that he's a small (non-large) model, but N'kari is quite awesome, although made of glass :D

One other thing that's quite alluring about Azazel is the inclusion of chaos cannons though.
"Come to me children... Or I shall blast you to pieces!"
N'Kari isn't really fragile. He and his armies are so fast that they reach their target before they can receive a lot of damage from enemy fire, and once in melee, N'kari causes so muchs debuffs around him that enemies barely scratch him, while he quite literally wreck them. He also quickly have access to several ways of causing rampage among enemies. You can use that on enemy ranged every time you see one managing to disengage from melee, forcing it to run back to you rather than firing from afar. it's a very satisfying lord to use tbh.
最后由 zefyris 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:46
Cacomistle 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:48 
I think n'kari. Slaanesh and tzneetch to me both seem to have a lot of synergy between the human units and the daemon ones, but slaanesh has better buffs for their human units imo. Your warriors of chaos can get the musk thing that gives enemies -5 ma/md, so they're even more tanky in melee than they'd normally be, so they hold in place for a long time for slaanesh's cav to repeatedly rear charge. If you pick regular warriors of chaos, I think those buffs to slaanesh human units aren't any better than the musk ability. Also devoted marauders are better than regular ones, they're kind of op tbh.

If you do that on the regular warriors of chaos, obviously chaos knights can rear charge too but they just don't have that insane instant routing damage vs armored units that seekers and heartseekers have.

Also you don't get a real damage dealing infantry on the warriors of chaos roster cause slaanesh don't have an armor piercing option for their chosen (nor do they have the insane weapon strength and ma of khorne chosen), unless you just use the undivided ones of course. Exalted daemonettes open that option up.

The warriors of chaos roster on the other hand would give them options that lend themselves to playing less like slaanesh. Hellcannons, trolls, giants, and undivided units in general all lend themselves more to slower direct melee fights rather than the flanking instant routes slaanesh does so well.

However, I think I have a noticable bias in that I don't particularly like azazel. I think he's boring. And while I like sigvald, he's undivided, which could be interesting for something like combining slaanesh and nurgle but for pure slaanesh I wouldn't pick him.
最后由 Cacomistle 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:50
Arran Chace 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:49 
Azazel en Festus i enjoy alot.. Festus grew on me.. just his grotesk way.. spreading plagues.. it just gives me a mad scientist fibe.
The healing of Festus, able to fight much stronger armies and come out nearly unscaved is kinda OP but hillarious..

If you know how to play him, i think Festus is the strongest of all Chaos warriors.
A.Pot 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:50 
I prefer Realms of Chaos N'kari so I can get at it with murdering Skarbrand and the other minions of Khorne. Also that I really enjoy the ultra glass cannon playstyle of Slaanesh while having the options for tougher warriors now
最后由 A.Pot 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:51
Rock 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:52 
I'm at the end of my campaign with Azazel and it was fun. I ran at the start marching all the way to Red Fortress, yoinked it. And started to corrupt Miau Ying. Ended up getting her as vassal and now i just watch like some evil emperor as she just goes forward as my champion and conquers the world.

I had fun because I usually don't bother with vassals and Norscans as faction is too weak to actually benefit from as Chaos Overlord. However Cathay and Miau as their leader is a seriously good vassal to be played around with. She slaps hard. Miau has fallen to the dark side :steamhappy:
JoeVonFo 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:53 
引用自 Arran Chace
Azazel en Festus i enjoy alot.. Festus grew on me.. just his grotesk way.. spreading plagues.. it just gives me a mad scientist fibe.
The healing of Festus, able to fight much stronger armies and come out nearly unscaved is kinda OP but hillarious..

If you know how to play him, i think Festus is the strongest of all Chaos warriors.

Absolutely agree..
He's one of the strongest lords in the game due to his insane aoe healing (and increased cap) and empowered mortis engine effect.
JoeVonFo 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:56 
引用自 Cacomistle
I think n'kari. Slaanesh and tzneetch to me both seem to have a lot of synergy between the human units and the daemon ones, but slaanesh has better buffs for their human units imo. Your warriors of chaos can get the musk thing that gives enemies -5 ma/md, so they're even more tanky in melee than they'd normally be, so they hold in place for a long time for slaanesh's cav to repeatedly rear charge. If you pick regular warriors of chaos, I think those buffs to slaanesh human units aren't any better than the musk ability. Also devoted marauders are better than regular ones, they're kind of op tbh.

Good point.
I mostly play multiplayer vs others, but there N'kari of course doesn't have his campaign buffs etc.
JoeVonFo 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:57 
Is it only WoC that gain access to super strong chaos fortresses (noticed someone mention them having really strong garrisons in another thread).
Or do N'kari also have very strong capitals, etc, garrison wise?

Edit: Now that I think about it Slaanesh must have a horrible garrison without anything ranged XD
最后由 JoeVonFo 编辑于; 2022 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:57
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