Wtf is up with reinforcement range?

[Skydan]

Got an army standing one pixel away from my settlement, enemy attacks my army and I get no reinforcements - not a lightning strike. What is going on?

[Aleera]

Did a second AI army attack the town, blocking it from reinforcing. A single lord can do this.
Or perhaps you were in ambush stance and the AI caught you, in that case they can intercept your ambush and you won't get reinforcements.

[Darklordnj]

Was it kairos or some other tzeetch faction, they have an attack stance that can prevent you from getting reinforcements. More info is needed either way.

[Skydan]

Originally posted by Rianne:

Did a second AI army attack the town, blocking it from reinforcing. A single lord can do this.
Or perhaps you were in ambush stance and the AI caught you, in that case they can intercept your ambush and you won't get reinforcements.

Is this new with warhammer 3?

[Siodog]

Originally posted by Skydan:

Originally posted by Rianne:

Did a second AI army attack the town, blocking it from reinforcing. A single lord can do this.
Or perhaps you were in ambush stance and the AI caught you, in that case they can intercept your ambush and you won't get reinforcements.

Is this new with warhammer 3?

No, it's been there kinda like almost forever, a sieged city cannot sail out

[Aleera]

Originally posted by Siodog:

Originally posted by Skydan:

Is this new with warhammer 3?

No, it's been there kinda like almost forever, a sieged city cannot sail out

Which is something I never really liked. If a sieging army can reinforce, the town they're besieging should be allowed to reinforce as well. Who'se stopping them? The siegers are fighting elsewhere.
Edit: Either both the sieger and the besieged cannot sail out, or both can reinforce.

[Siodog]

Originally posted by Rianne:

Originally posted by Siodog:

No, it's been there kinda like almost forever, a sieged city cannot sail out

Which is something I never really liked. If a sieging army can reinforce, the town they're besieging should be allowed to reinforce as well. Who'se stopping them? The siegers are fighting elsewhere.
Edit: Either both the sieger and the besieged cannot sail out, or both can reinforce.

In reality? Sure of course. In the game? Nop, I mean you have lots of engine limitations, just think about the "gates" problems and being able to pass through them.

[Skydan]

I am 99% sure that in the second game, I could have a solitary lord set up an ambush outside a settlement and if triggered the garrison will aid in the ambush. Either that or I am going mad, which is quite possible.

[Elitewrecker PT]

You're correct. But note the keyword - IF. If the ambush is successful you get reinforcements but they don't. If they spot you, and they have two armies, one can siege the settlement while the other engages the outside army blocking THEM from being reinforced.

[Xhal]

A city being besieged does not have a zone of control and thus cannot reinforce an army that is being attacked outside the city, as far as I remember Total War has always worked like this even in old historical titles.

[BigRockWall]

Originally posted by Skydan:

I am 99% sure that in the second game, I could have a solitary lord set up an ambush outside a settlement and if triggered the garrison will aid in the ambush. Either that or I am going mad, which is quite possible.

Yep you can definitely have a solo lord in ambush get reinforced by the city when his ambush goes off, assuming he was in fact in range of the city reinforcements

If the city get sieged, the outside army doesn't get reinforced if it gets attacked.

If the enemy is tzeentch skaven or beastman, they can have an attack stance that can (if die roll succeeds) ambush, thereby cutting off your reinforcements even if they are in range

If the enemy crosses a bridge, and you are covering the bridge with your ambush zone of control, you most likely will not get the ambush period. Bridges and other transitional areas are stupid in total war, and bug out in regards to ambush. You have to move away from the bridge so that the enemy walks into your ambush AFTER fully crossing the bridge. If they hit you ambush ZoC before, or while still on said bridsge, no ambush will likely happen.

[Xaphnir]

In addition to the issue with enemies besieging the settlement, then attacking your army, there's also a long-standing bug where the game will for some reason fail to recognize that an army of yours is in reinforcement range. I think I've most often noticed it when I'm attacking and the army I was intending to reinforce with is standing too close to the attacking army.