Not enjoying the Khorne roster and the Marketing

[Funky Monk]

So yesterday was underwhelming for me, here is why:

1. Khorne roster: Reskins were expected ever since WH3 was announced, however i was not expecting this much. Here are all the reskinned units ive seen so far:

Marauders of Khorne
Chaos warriors of Khorne (3 variants)
Warhounds of Khorne and flesh hounds
Chaos spawn of Khorne
Furies of Khorne
Minotaurs of Khorne
Gorebeasts of khorne

Also we will have brand new units who who will have variants/reskins:

Bloodletters and Exalted variant
Also herald of khorne (hero) and bloodmasters (possibly lord variant)

Bloodthirster and Exalted variants (Lord variant)

İt is also certain that we will get Chosen of Khorne with variants and maybe some marked gors or bestigors. İ don’t understand why we haven’t seen Skullreapers, Wrathmongers or Slaughterbrutes. Maybe they will be saved for DLC material? İn any case thats a lot of reskins. And it is very likely that many of these units will be reskinned for the other gods as well

2. Marketing: Maybe they haven’t shown these 3 units and possibly more because of their Marketing strategy. i won’t be saying which is the best way to do the marketing because it’s not my expertise. However i came to the conclusion that their strategy is “breadcrumbs” I think that a good example for this is the recently announced BM DLC. İts not a “trailer” its a “teaser trailer” the first of its kind. The teaser only shows the 2 LL (taurox being shown partially) and 2, maybe 3 units (one unit is only visible if you are eagle eyed) The khorne trailer doesn’t show anything new except bloodmasters and Skarbrand (which was expected) Why is CA doing this breadcrumb strategy? İt only gets annoying when we wanna see more but what we see is not new or surprising, or it barely shows new stuff. İ’m no expert in marketing but im certainly not enjoying this strategy, it only makes me and maybe others frustrated and annoyed

[Zoie Shales]

SpaceGoatMage eredeti hozzászólása:

Heres something more unique.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1142710/view/3055109632950664639

Watching that do a burning donut on peoples faces was satisfying.

[Dean Winchester]

managarmr eredeti hozzászólása:

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

I just don't buy the claim that the other monogod factions will be more interesting than khorne. They might have more interesting campaign mechanics but not battles. In the end, they should still be WoC + Daemons + beastmen. One just happens to be more tanky, while the other is more glass cannon. In the end they're all likely to play very similarly on the battlefield since they draw units from the same factions. A Chaos Warrior of Nurgle isn't going to be that different from a Chaos Warrior of Khorne. They're still bulky, heavily armoured warriors that run at the enemy and cut them down. One is just more aggressive while the other is more tanky.

Tzeentch is guaranteed to be different than the other gods. Tzaangors unlike beastmen gors are elite. You'll probably have four variants. The standard inf (which are bulky), the elite inf on foot, The elite Inf on the mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flying discs of tzeentch and Elite archers(skyfires) on disc which will prob be like ushabti with bows but mobile and flying.

Then the demons inf are all unique have ranged and the ability to use spells. They can split and they have different types.

Even the mortals will have unique chaff like Kairic Acolytes which are ranged/melee mortals with shield.

Click the age of sigmar store and look at tzeentch they have enough models for 2-3 dlcs.

It's not "guaranteed" by any stretch of the imagination. Just like Khorne's roster, Tzeentch's roster will have blue chaos warriors, blue beastmen, and tzeentch daemons. There's not going to be any age of sigmar content in this game whether or not you "feel" there will be any. CA said this game won't have any AoS content in the FAQ. The models for greater daemons are the same across GW's IPs.

[managarmr]

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

managarmr eredeti hozzászólása:

Tzeentch is guaranteed to be different than the other gods. Tzaangors unlike beastmen gors are elite. You'll probably have four variants. The standard inf (which are bulky), the elite inf on foot, The elite Inf on the mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flying discs of tzeentch and Elite archers(skyfires) on disc which will prob be like ushabti with bows but mobile and flying.

Then the demons inf are all unique have ranged and the ability to use spells. They can split and they have different types.

Even the mortals will have unique chaff like Kairic Acolytes which are ranged/melee mortals with shield.

Click the age of sigmar store and look at tzeentch they have enough models for 2-3 dlcs.

It's not "guaranteed" by any stretch of the imagination. Just like Khorne's roster, Tzeentch's roster will have blue chaos warriors, blue beastmen, and tzeentch daemons. There's not going to be any age of sigmar content in this game whether or not you "feel" there will be any. CA said this game won't have any AoS content in the FAQ. The models for greater daemons are the same across GW's IPs.

Man that would be a waste if they don't use tzaangors now.

[Obamenau]

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not "guaranteed" by any stretch of the imagination. Just like Khorne's roster, Tzeentch's roster will have blue chaos warriors, blue beastmen, and tzeentch daemons. There's not going to be any age of sigmar content in this game whether or not you "feel" there will be any. CA said this game won't have any AoS content in the FAQ. The models for greater daemons are the same across GW's IPs.

With that logic there simply wont be any tzeentch beastmen since they never had a model before AoS.

[Mr Nothing]

Boxy Box eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't understand why people define a faction's quality based on reskinned armies/unit roster. I care about the campaign mechanics and their gameplays, not unit models that I might close up to take a look at once in 100 battles.
Also, Khorne is boring. I am looking forward to Tzeentch and Nurgle.

If you care so much about campaign mechanics. And graphics,animation, real time battles mean so little to you . Crusader kings must be the game you should be playing instead.

[Dean Winchester]

Obaminator eredeti hozzászólása:

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not "guaranteed" by any stretch of the imagination. Just like Khorne's roster, Tzeentch's roster will have blue chaos warriors, blue beastmen, and tzeentch daemons. There's not going to be any age of sigmar content in this game whether or not you "feel" there will be any. CA said this game won't have any AoS content in the FAQ. The models for greater daemons are the same across GW's IPs.

With that logic there simply wont be any tzeentch beastmen since they never had a model before AoS.

With what logic? The logic where I point out that CA said there won't be AoS units? They don't need previous models to add things into the game, that should be pretty damn obvious by now with many units they created for Norsca and Vcoast.

[Obamenau]

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

Obaminator eredeti hozzászólása:

With that logic there simply wont be any tzeentch beastmen since they never had a model before AoS.

With what logic? The logic where I point out that CA said there won't be AoS units? They don't need previous models to add things into the game, that should be pretty damn obvious by now with many units they created for Norsca and Vcoast.

I find your assumption that CA will add a low quality reskin of a unit when a high quality model already exist a bit over the top and silly. Thats downright spiteful.

[Mactalon]

FunkyMonk eredeti hozzászólása:

You need to do a closer look https://imgur.com/a/xTStsvl
even beastmen and norscan warhounds have different models, why can't Khorne have it?

It's entirely possible they have warhounds as part of their roster that have the same base as the WoC ones, which makes a bit of sense really, but they do also have Flesh Hounds which look entirely different at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7q0Ms7ej7A

[Funky Monk]

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

Obaminator eredeti hozzászólása:

With that logic there simply wont be any tzeentch beastmen since they never had a model before AoS.

With what logic? The logic where I point out that CA said there won't be AoS units? They don't need previous models to add things into the game, that should be pretty damn obvious by now with many units they created for Norsca and Vcoast.

İ think what CA meant is that they won’t add AoS races such as sigmarines, idoneth, sylvaneth, fyreslayers, kruleboyz etc. İirc the bloodmasters were an AoS unit.

[Funky Monk]

Mactalon eredeti hozzászólása:

FunkyMonk eredeti hozzászólása:

You need to do a closer look https://imgur.com/a/xTStsvl
even beastmen and norscan warhounds have different models, why can't Khorne have it?

It's entirely possible they have warhounds as part of their roster that have the same base as the WoC ones, which makes a bit of sense really, but they do also have Flesh Hounds which look entirely different at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7q0Ms7ej7A

At least they could have given the warhounds some new looks, hell they gave new looks to beastmen warhounds or norscan warhounds, why not khorne? Same question goes for the chaos spawn

[Mactalon]

FunkyMonk eredeti hozzászólása:

Mactalon eredeti hozzászólása:

It's entirely possible they have warhounds as part of their roster that have the same base as the WoC ones, which makes a bit of sense really, but they do also have Flesh Hounds which look entirely different at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7q0Ms7ej7A

At least they could have given the warhounds some new looks, hell they gave new looks to beastmen warhounds or norscan warhounds, why not khorne? Same question goes for the chaos spawn

Well my wonder is if there's newer models on all of them we haven't seen yet.

We may get the slight variations for the base ones but new things for the extra Khorne ones, like the Flesh Hounds, and things that look a bit more like Scylla for Chaos Spawn etc.

Still bits to come out, don't worry too much yet :)

[Obamenau]

FunkyMonk eredeti hozzászólása:

At least they could have given the warhounds some new looks, hell they gave new looks to beastmen warhounds or norscan warhounds, why not khorne? Same question goes for the chaos spawn

I mean they already are chaos warhounds. They even look pretty Khornate.

What actually bothers me is the low effort chaos spawn reskin for what should be a distinct unit. That truely is below CAs standards.

[A Box]

Jurassic Zombie From Outer Space eredeti hozzászólása:

Boxy Box eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't understand why people define a faction's quality based on reskinned armies/unit roster. I care about the campaign mechanics and their gameplays, not unit models that I might close up to take a look at once in 100 battles.
Also, Khorne is boring. I am looking forward to Tzeentch and Nurgle.

If you care so much about campaign mechanics. And graphics,animation, real time battles mean so little to you . Crusader kings must be the game you should be playing instead.

I never said I don't enjoy the battles, quite like them actually. I never looked into Crusader Kings or other games because of that.
My point is that I don't care whether they are a reskin or not... as long as campaign mechanics, lord skills or tech tree can make them "unique", then I am totally satisfied with that.

[JediMasterDraco]

My interest is in the armies as a whole. If reskinning or recoloring a unit and tweaking its stats allows it to be a loreful fit for the army then I’m not gonna complain.

[Dean Winchester]

Obaminator eredeti hozzászólása:

SteadilyPhysical eredeti hozzászólása:

With what logic? The logic where I point out that CA said there won't be AoS units? They don't need previous models to add things into the game, that should be pretty damn obvious by now with many units they created for Norsca and Vcoast.

I find your assumption that CA will add a low quality reskin of a unit when a high quality model already exist a bit over the top and silly. Thats downright spiteful.

You think that the "assumption" that CA won't add AoS units after saying they won't add AoS units is "over the top", "silly", and "spiteful"

I could say the same thing about the copes you keep writing.