Historical RTS gaming is now officially dead

[Agent]

When I seen a reveal for another Warhammer game, I felt a great sense of dread.

Literally going to be the same old crap as the last two games, with stupid spells covering the entire screen. I'm really sick and tired of RTS gaming at this point.

Age of Empires 4 is our only hope at a historical RTS game.

[Golfbag Mansampler]

There will never be a 'proper' med 3 now. Live with this fact. Just enjoy the new TW structure for what it is.

[somekindofpast]

p(l)andemic eredeti hozzászólása:

There will never be a 'proper' med 3 now. Live with this fact. Just enjoy the new TW structure for what it is.

perhaps, perhaps not. You cannot possibly know this for a fact.

[jonoliveira12]

I like warhammer, but I would still buy a medieval 3, which is what I am saying.

And yes, mods do screw up the files, and take way more space than they should, aswell as never being properly balanced.

If it is not a good C&C mod or The Protectors, I will just not even try it, these days.

[dulany67]

Some guy eredeti hozzászólása:

UselessOkuu eredeti hozzászólása:

Between warhammer 2 you got:
Thrones of Britannia
Three Kingdoms
Troy
But is not enough spermanii to you?

They were all low effort garbage games. So no, not enough.

ToB, despite it's rep is a pretty good game- and definitely not low effort, but it is a SAGA. The players reviewed it into oblivion, but recent reviews are mostly positive.

The problem with that is that it's abandoned and mostly unplayed so of course there's no DLC. Who knows what it might have become, and it would have given the historical guys another game option.

But whether you agree with me or not, the reception for ToB certainly doesn't help with getting a new historical title.

[Golfbag Mansampler]

That guy with cravat really tried his best with ToB. TWCenter is scum pit now, but old folks remember his dedication to historical gaming and modding.
He got screwed with the limitations put on ToB. Hope he's doing okay.

[somekindofpast]

jonoliveira12 eredeti hozzászólása:

If it is not a good C&C mod or The Protectors, I will just not even try it, these days.

I think mods are worth checking out at least. It's not like you're paying for them. You never know what gem you could be missing out on. Seriously

[Slut Dragon]

Good riddance. Real world stuff is boring.

[Ysthrall]

This thread is a cheap reskin of the several previous threads on exactly the same topic, in the several days since game 3 was announced.....

In tone it is similar to the complaints that came out when game 1 was announced.

The lack of originality and creativity in the "historical TW fans" is quite disheartening....

[MrSoul]

Hate break it to the OP, as an RTS nut myself, but RTS as a genre in general, well golden age is gone, been on downswing for years and hasn't really been a significant entry to the genre since, ♥♥♥♥, like SupCom? Company of Heroes 2? I honeslty don't know but true RTS games are a thing of the past sadly right now.

And no, I never included TW as a true RTS, it's not, you dont build bases, not on singular map, and there are no relevant strategies or playstyles translate from an RTS to TW even in real time tactical battles.

TW is a 4x crossed with tactical battles like Wargame(ie army built before battle).

[Ysthrall]

Mr.Soul eredeti hozzászólása:

Hate break it to the OP, as an RTS nut myself, ...I honeslty don't know but true RTS games are a thing of the past sadly right now.

Out of curiosity, how would you define a "true RTS game"? Not with comparisms and references, but by features?

I ask as this definition seems to vary....

[MrSoul]

Ysthrall eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr.Soul eredeti hozzászólása:

Hate break it to the OP, as an RTS nut myself, ...I honeslty don't know but true RTS games are a thing of the past sadly right now.

Out of curiosity, how would you define a "true RTS game"? Not with comparisms and references, but by features?

I ask as this definition seems to vary....

All imho, but any strategy where ALL of the game is real time, like what I mentioned in my comment, TA, Supcom, Warcraft, Starcraft, AoE, Age of Mythology, Command and Conquer series, list really goes on but basically height was late 90's into early 2000's once get up to time of Dawn of War 2 coming out...that's kinda the end really imo. TW is not a real time game 100%, you have a turn based campaign. Wargame has an over map as well.

Like AAA devs used actually care about RTS games, used get one like every second week, seriously aside from indie devs that are nutters like me for the genre, what have had in the last 5-10 years that does not justify saying genre is essentially dead already? the out right rejected Dawn of War 3?

[General Frost]

Why do these posts keep popping up? Im pretty sure they are seperate teams in the company.

[Butcher]

Mr.Soul eredeti hozzászólása:

Ysthrall eredeti hozzászólása:

Out of curiosity, how would you define a "true RTS game"? Not with comparisms and references, but by features?

I ask as this definition seems to vary....

All imho, but any strategy where ALL of the game is real time, like what I mentioned in my comment, Warcraft, Starcraft, AoE, Age of Mythology, Command and Conquer series, list really goes on but basically height was late 90's into early 2000's once get up to time of Dawn of War 2 coming out...that's kinda the end really imo. TW is not a real time game 100%, you have a turn based campaign. Wargame has an over map as well.

Like AAA devs used actually care about RTS games, used get one like every second week, seriously aside from indie devs that are nutters like me for the genre, what have had in the last 5-10 years that does not justify saying genre is essentially dead already? the out right rejected Dawn of War 3?

It is not like there are no RTS games. Dwarfheim was recently released in early access and judging by player numbers noone really cares. It's just that people don't care about them. Just like people don't really care about arena shooters, even though every couple of months new game comes out.

[Revelation]

UselessOkuu eredeti hozzászólása:

Some guy eredeti hozzászólása:

They were all low effort garbage games. So no, not enough.

Oh ♥♥♥♥ off.
You don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about history, you just come here to troll.

^ this

[Caz]

Some guy eredeti hozzászólása:

Historical RTS gaming is now officially dead

Some guy eredeti hozzászólása:

Age of Empires 4 is our only hope at a historical RTS game.

So is it dead or is there hope? It can't be both. This is why being a hyperbolic Chicken Little is so asinine.