CHRONO CROSS: THE RADICAL DREAMERS EDITION

CHRONO CROSS: THE RADICAL DREAMERS EDITION

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Dzaka Apr 8, 2022 @ 7:22pm
let's fix the issues with running the game
ok.. no pedantic confrontational attitudes. lets do actual work here...

now.. some people are having problems running the game.. alot of us arn't but lets use this as a way to help everyone..

now.. game won't run at all...: check that you actually are able to run the game. including operating system.. if you're running windows 7.. ofcourse you can't run it... other than that than there's another issue happening.. seeing as i'm on windows 10 21H1 and it runs flawlessly. it's stable on that build atleast. so there is something hardware or software causing a problem interacting with the game.

unstable framerate: now.. are you actually seeing the integrated steam fps counter dip majorly.. i'm not talking 1-5 frames just for a split second. i mean actual inconsistant framerates. especially if you hit it up to high speed mode. if it's just "it doesn't look like it's 60fps" you don't have a problem.. you're running up to how the devs did the character animations in the game during a fight. the game even on duckstation when you attack has wonky animation timing that makes it look like it's dropping frames or something.. this is existant on the original ps1 hardware too. the legend of dragoon does the same thing. if made today the game would be panned for having "non impactful attacks that have no weight" welcome to games in the ps1 era.

if the game crash's check windows event viewer and find out what it says happened. with this information maybe the problem can be diagnosed.

as i started.. the game IS working for a large group of us. it's the millions of possible variables in your pc build that leads to these incompatabilities. and maybe... just maybe.. we can figure out the problems... i'll start

OS: windows 10 21h1
PCU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100
RAM: 16 gigs 8x2 dual channel 3000mhz ddr4
GPU: Geforce GTX 1660 super W/driver 512.15

game running.. no problems but an audio weirdness at first that i found and fixed.. again.. it wasn't the game.. it was my razer kraken TE usb DAC having fits over the game. been fixed now

edit: please no talk about emulation. this thread is about finding the problems and fixing them. not "oh it's better on emulation. just do that."
Last edited by Dzaka; Apr 13, 2022 @ 11:02pm
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frowningmirror Apr 8, 2022 @ 7:49pm 
It is not the machine, its some problem with optimization. This is a 20 year old game that can run on my android phone. I can even run Chrono Cross on another emulator fine on this same computer.
Its specifically the radical dreamers edition being throttled by something.

I had no issues Day 1 running around on Elden Ring. So my graphics card isn't fried or anything.

OS: Windows 10
PCU: i7-10750H CPU
RAM: 16 gig
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

My machine is mostly the same as your except runs slightly better on most benchmarks

The issue is some optimization problem.

Things I've done:
I went to NVIDIA settings to set both the launcher and the exe to run

-Low Latency Mode to Ultra
-Power management is to max performance
-Set Vsync on
-Set Max frame rate to 59

I also turned off
-MXAA in game
-Turned off the post processing filter

Right now, the elevator in the games beginning dream - the particles slows my game to a crawl, and the battles are quite bad, slowing also being unbearable. Lowering the resolution helps but I've already made my game look significantly worse than yours at that point, I'm not going to bother if I can't play full screen.
Last edited by frowningmirror; Apr 8, 2022 @ 8:01pm
Dzaka Apr 8, 2022 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by frowningmirror:
It is not the machine, its some problem with optimization. This is a 20 year old game that can run on my android phone. I can even run Chrono Cross on another emulator fine on this same computer.
Its specifically the radical dreamers edition being throttled by something.

I had no issues Day 1 running around on Elden Ring. So my graphics card isn't fried or anything.

OS: Windows 10
PCU: i7-10750H CPU
RAM: 16 gig
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

My machine is mostly the same as your except runs slightly better on most benchmarks

The issue is some optimization problem.

Things I've done:
I went to NVIDIA settings to set both the launcher and the exe to run

-Low Latency Mode to Ultra
-Power management is to max performance
-Set Vsync on
-Set Max frame rate to 59

I also turned off
-MXAA in game
-Turned off the post processing filter

Right now, the elevator in the dream particles slows my game to a crawl, and the battles are quite bad, slowing down at times. Lowering the resolution helps but I've already made my game look significantly worse than yours at that point, I'm not going to bother if I can't play full screen.

there any other programs that could be eating process's? and is it taking alot of resources itself? when i'm running it it uses like 10% of my cpu and equally very little of my ram. my gpu is only running at 40%

i do know yesterday people had saving issues that were caused by their AV not letting the game do what it's ment to do.. might whitelist the game in your AV so it isn't trying to intercept everything and slow it down
RPG Gamer Man Apr 8, 2022 @ 8:02pm 
You may also need to increase page file size. Some games do not work good with the 16mb standard paging file. If you need more info on paging files i will link a guide here people use to do it in cities skylines.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2114415052&searchtext=page+file

Also try playing it in admin mode, and also if you have MSI afterburner, it messes with alot of the newer games. People complained about it messing up cyberpunk 2077 also, so try turning it off also.
Last edited by RPG Gamer Man; Apr 8, 2022 @ 8:04pm
Random Apr 8, 2022 @ 9:02pm 
Running with no issues R5 3600+1080 Ti on Windows 10 verison 21H2 Build 19044.1620.
Changing compatibility to Windows 8 fixed boot issues and applying 60fps lock and vsync in Nvidia control panel fixed frame pacing issues.
Mio Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:38am 
Ok, I really need some help now.


OS: Windows 10
PCU: AMD A8-7600 with Radeon™ R7 Graphics
RAM: 8 gig
GPU: Radeon™ R7 Graphics

I know it's not a great machine, but I play a lot of games here. Sometimes not at best settings, but it still runs. With Chrono Cross, first I had no issues opening the game, watching the opening, using the menus, etc. The initial problem was that the game crashed every time a got near the right door right after leaving the elevator, at fort dragonia (dream). I solved that by changing video settings in the game's menu (esc) and disabling all the aliasing options. So, I passed the door and activate the aliasing again and the game ran perfectly for like 2 hours... I even had a lot of battles and no lag problems. But after I closed the game, I couldn't even open it again. Now when I try to start the game it just go to a white screen and then back to desktop. Sometimes it says it's an error of driver timeout. I tried to change my drivers to various versions, but none worked again.

Someone has any clue about what I can do? :chronoturnip::chronoleah:
Last edited by Mio; Apr 9, 2022 @ 1:13am
Dzaka Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by Mio:
Ok, I really need some help now.


OS: Windows 10
PCU: AMD A8-7600 with Radeon™ R7 Graphics
RAM: 8 gig
GPU: Radeon™ R7 Graphics

I know it's not a great machine, but I play a lot of games here. Sometimes not at best settings, but it still runs. With Chrono Cross, first I had no issues opening the game, watching the opening, using the menus, etc. The initial problem was that the game crashed every time a got near the right door right after leaving the elevator, at fort dragonia (dream). I solved that by changing video settings in the game's menu (esc) and disabling all the aliasing options. So, I passed the door and activate the aliasing again and the game runned perfectly for like 2 hours... I even had a lot of battles and no lag problems. But after I closed the game, I couldn't even open it again. Now when I try to start the game it just go to a white screen and then back to desktop. Sometimes it says it's an error of driver timeout. I tried to change my drivers to various versions, but none worked again.

Someone has any clue about what I can do? :chronoturnip::chronoleah:

looks like your video chip is below spec.. just barely
Mio Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:49am 
Originally posted by Dzaka:
Originally posted by Mio:
Ok, I really

looks like your video chip is below spec.. just barely


Ok, but why it ran for hours and now don't even open? And it is the kind of thing square can fix in the future so I can run with this set or it just won't work?
Last edited by Mio; Apr 9, 2022 @ 1:12am
Mio Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:51am 
And if it ran before, doesn't exist a way to make my pc works that way again so it can run the game again? lol
Last edited by Mio; Apr 9, 2022 @ 1:12am
Dzaka Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:52am 
Originally posted by Mio:
And if it runned before, doesn't exist a way to make my pc works that way again so it can run the game again? lol

have you restarted since it worked last? might be a break that a restart fixes
Grimsi Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Mio:
Ok, I really need some help now.


OS: Windows 10
PCU: AMD A8-7600 with Radeon™ R7 Graphics
RAM: 8 gig
GPU: Radeon™ R7 Graphics

I know it's not a great machine, but I play a lot of games here. Sometimes not at best settings, but it still runs. With Chrono Cross, first I had no issues opening the game, watching the opening, using the menus, etc. The initial problem was that the game crashed every time a got near the right door right after leaving the elevator, at fort dragonia (dream). I solved that by changing video settings in the game's menu (esc) and disabling all the aliasing options. So, I passed the door and activate the aliasing again and the game runned perfectly for like 2 hours... I even had a lot of battles and no lag problems. But after I closed the game, I couldn't even open it again. Now when I try to start the game it just go to a white screen and then back to desktop. Sometimes it says it's an error of driver timeout. I tried to change my drivers to various versions, but none worked again.

Someone has any clue about what I can do? :chronoturnip::chronoleah:

Same problem here, game ran laggy so I used borderless mode and started running fine for 2 hours, i went to sleep and the next morning I tried to play it again and I've been getting white screens that close after a while ever since, either that or I sometimes get a message that says something like "the font couldn't be loaded"
Last edited by Grimsi; Apr 9, 2022 @ 12:55am
Tracido Apr 9, 2022 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by Andy Goober:
Originally posted by Mio:
Ok, I really need some help now.


OS: Windows 10
PCU: AMD A8-7600 with Radeon™ R7 Graphics
RAM: 8 gig
GPU: Radeon™ R7 Graphics

I know it's not a great machine, but I play a lot of games here. Sometimes not at best settings, but it still runs. With Chrono Cross, first I had no issues opening the game, watching the opening, using the menus, etc. The initial problem was that the game crashed every time a got near the right door right after leaving the elevator, at fort dragonia (dream). I solved that by changing video settings in the game's menu (esc) and disabling all the aliasing options. So, I passed the door and activate the aliasing again and the game runned perfectly for like 2 hours... I even had a lot of battles and no lag problems. But after I closed the game, I couldn't even open it again. Now when I try to start the game it just go to a white screen and then back to desktop. Sometimes it says it's an error of driver timeout. I tried to change my drivers to various versions, but none worked again.

Someone has any clue about what I can do? :chronoturnip::chronoleah:

Same problem here, game ran laggy so I used borderless mode and started running fine for 2 hours, i went to sleep and the next morning I tried to play it again and I've been getting white screens that close after a while ever since, either that or I sometimes get a message that says something like "the font couldn't be loaded"

Yeah, I had to use some windows tricks to get this broken game to let task manager always be on top to exit it when that happens. I dared to try to run full screen oh noes.

Also, the lies about Duckstation can't go un responded to, look at the animations, and their speeds, thanks, https://youtu.be/zdCLuWtiPvI
Last edited by Tracido; Apr 9, 2022 @ 1:01am
Mio Apr 9, 2022 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by Dzaka:
Originally posted by Mio:
And if it runned before, doesn't exist a way to make my pc works that way again so it can run the game again? lol

have you restarted since it worked last? might be a break that a restart fixes


Yes, I tried. Restart, reinstall... :(
Jota Random Apr 13, 2022 @ 10:01pm 
Originally posted by Mio:
Ok, I really need some help now.


OS: Windows 10
PCU: AMD A8-7600 with Radeon™ R7 Graphics
RAM: 8 gig
GPU: Radeon™ R7 Graphics

I know it's not a great machine, but I play a lot of games here. Sometimes not at best settings, but it still runs. With Chrono Cross, first I had no issues opening the game, watching the opening, using the menus, etc. The initial problem was that the game crashed every time a got near the right door right after leaving the elevator, at fort dragonia (dream). I solved that by changing video settings in the game's menu (esc) and disabling all the aliasing options. So, I passed the door and activate the aliasing again and the game ran perfectly for like 2 hours... I even had a lot of battles and no lag problems. But after I closed the game, I couldn't even open it again. Now when I try to start the game it just go to a white screen and then back to desktop. Sometimes it says it's an error of driver timeout. I tried to change my drivers to various versions, but none worked again.

Someone has any clue about what I can do? :chronoturnip::chronoleah:

Well i can confirm Ist might not be the AMD Driver, as i tried the newest Adrenaline drivers, the olders drivers and the Windows stocks too Yet all give me the same issues as you

Also intried all that the other suggested here, Try 2x Aliasing as that worked for me

Edit: Its literally worked ONCE then again crashed with the same errors
Last edited by Jota Random; Apr 13, 2022 @ 11:19pm
exiledangel420 Apr 14, 2022 @ 1:36pm 
Someone should make a pinned post of fixes for the game, that way there aren't 50 post about the same or similar problems that have already been solved. And then you also don't have to dig 10 pages deep for posts that might help you with your issues.

My System -
Graphic Card: nvidia gtx 1650
VRAM: 4GB
Ram: 12GB
Processor: intel i5-9350 @ 2.40 Ghtz
Cores: 4
OS: linux mint 20.3
- Also I should note I picked lightest window manager possible and it still be simple to navigate for this operating system because it's for gaming which was xfwm4. Think windows xp type of layout. It boots completely up in 10 to 15 secs tops. Windows 10 it took atleast 3 to 5 mins when it was installed which was over 1 year ago.

Apps I commonly have running in while on steam:
- Firefox, with multiple tabs usually open, sometimes even playing videos on amazon prime, sometimes playing music off of pandora. Never go on face book from my computer.
- A disk management app.
- Occasionally my NVIDIA control applet.
- Sometimes I run my updater while gaming.
- Ocassionally a text editor.
- Occasionally a file management app.
- Sometimes a couple instances of the terminal.

I've had little to no problem after the proton update specifically proton experimental bleeding beta.
Before the update there was .net framework error that would crash the game.
Zero crashes after update.
Had to reconnect my controller while steam was running for this game to recognize it.
An occasional battle stutter, but no frame drops at least with the steam fps counter. And frames don't seem to slow down too much that I can tell visually either.
Haven't modified games default settings other then making it full screen. The default resolution was set to 320x200 when I first booted it up and have no clue why. Is their a device that runs in that that low of resolution these days? Anyways I changed to a ultra wide screen resolution no screen tearing but discovered it doesn't fill the entire screen but at least game is centered. So that it is just black spaces on both sides. They could have made some kind of background for such resolutions sizes I'm surprised they didn't.
Last edited by exiledangel420; Apr 14, 2022 @ 3:14pm
RPG Gamer Man Apr 14, 2022 @ 4:28pm 
Just helped this guy with no video loading. Apparently they had HDR on. By turning it off and then turning it on solved their issue. I am leaving this here in case anyone else has no video issues. Try this method and see if it works. Here is a link on what we did, and how this steam user figured out how to fix it in the end:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1133760/discussions/0/5154941593362559129/
Last edited by RPG Gamer Man; Apr 14, 2022 @ 4:34pm
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