Question about animal breeding

[atlas117]

I have a problem with my donkeys. I have two of them for now 7 ingame years, yet they didn't produce any offspring whatsoever (yes I have a male and a female one) but I use the male one as mount. Is that the problem, or do I have just bad luck?

[zantariz]

Using one of them as a mount does not affect breeding. I had two and was using one as a mount and they produced an offspring. There is a good post somewhere in the forums (I think in recent history) that explains how breeding works. Each mature female of the breed has a certain % change of producing an offspring for each mature male per season (I assume in the same building). If memory serves me correctly, it's 10% per male per male?

I'm certain somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the general rule of thumb.

It does seem to me that the more valuable animals seem to breed less. Maybe the % chance varies by species. It took several seasons for my mature male and female horses to produce their first offspring.

[Morri]

Did you make sure they have feed? Since a few patches ago they require feed to be able to reproduce.

Other than that it's just bad luck. You using one as a mount makes no difference.

[zantariz]

I wish I knew how to create a link to another post. I found the one that talks about the requirements. Just search for "breeding" and I think it was the second option on my search results.

[🎮AliveSince1961🎮]

Just right click anywhere on the tread page an choose "Copy Page URL". Then paste it in your comment.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by zantariz:

I wish I knew how to create a link to another post. I found the one that talks about the requirements. Just search for "breeding" and I think it was the second option on my search results.

Just go to that topic and copy the url, then paste here. Not difficult.

[Dutchgamer1982]

FUUUU... I was buisy typing and it delited ALL of it.. an hour of work lost.
stupid steam and their screen refreshing...

well I aint going to do all the calculations AGAIN.

anyway : to get annimal offspring you must meet 3 condintions.
**the annimals must be fed
**there must be at least 1 free bed in their building
**there must be at least 1 of both genders in their building.

if you meet these 3 demands, at the start of each new season a diceroll happens whether you will get annimal offspring.

for pigs, chickens, geese
each female has a 15% chance to get offspring per season PER MALE

pigs only have 5 beds so :
1 female, 1 man = 15% chance to get 1 piglet, 85% 0
1 female, 2 man = 30% chance to get 1, 70% 0
2 female, 1 man = 2,25% chance to get 2, 25,5% chance to get 1, 72,25% to get 0
3 female, 1 man = 38,5875% chance to get 1, 61,4125 chance to get 0
2 female, 2 man = 51% chance to get 1, 49% chance to get 0
1 female, 3 man = 45% chance to get 1, 55% chance to get 0

geese and chickens have 10 beds.. so higher numbers are possible... I was buisy giving numbers for ALL options.. but than steam delited my data... not going to do it again right now.. maybe later.. but if you have 7 male + 1 female, you guaranteed get a chick each season (7x15=105%) but the number of eggs you will get will be rather lousy.

horses & donkeys have only 4 beds, but have a 20% chance per female so for horses it is :
1 female, 1 man = 20% chance to get 1, 80% to get 0
2 female, 1 man = 36% chance to get 1, 64% to get 0
1 female, 2 man = 40% chance to get 1, 60% to get 0

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by 🎮AliveSince1961🎮:

You mean you've written a 1,000-word instruction on how to copy and paste a link? :steamlaughcry:

no I was calculating all the chances for each variant of female and male chickens...

for example if 4 female and 2 male chickens, whats than the chance on 4, 3, 2, 1 and 0 chickens per season..

and that for ALL possible combinations... was nearly done (just 2 left) when steam delited what I had typed)

[Dutchgamer1982]

ok cows have 30% chance on a calf, per bull, and cowshed have 8 beds

so
1 cow + 1 bull = 30% chance on 1 70% chance on 0
2 cow + 1 bull = 9% chance on 2, 42% chance on 1, 49% chance on 0
1 cow + 2 bull = 60% chance on 1, 40% chance on 0
3 cow + 1 bull = 2,7% chance on 3, 18,9% chance on 2, 44,1% chance on 1, 34,3% chance on 0
2 cow + 2 bull = 36% chance on 2, 48% chance on 1, 16% on 0
1 cow + 3 bull = 90% chance on 1, 10% on 0
4 cow + 1 bull = 8,37% chance on 3, 26,46% chance on 2, 41,16% on 1, 24,01% chance on 0
3 cow + 2 bull = 21,6% chance on 3, 43,2% chance on 2, 28,8% chance on 1, 6,4% chance on 0
2 cow + 3 bull = 81% chance on 2, 18% chance on 2, 1% chance on 0
1 cow + 4 bull = 100% chance on 1
5 cow + 1 bull =47,178% chance on 2, 36,015% chance on 1, 16,807% chance on 0
4 cow + 2 bull = 82,08% chance on 2, 15,36% chance on 1, 2,56% chance on 0
3 cow + 3 bull = 97,2% chance on 2, 2,7% chance on 1, 0.1% chance on 0
2 cow + 4 bull = 100% chance on 2
1 cow + 5 bull = 100% chance on 1
6 cow + 1 bull = 88,2351% chance on 1, 11,7649% chance on 0
5 cow + 2 bull = 98,976% chance on 1, 1,024% chance on 0
4 cow + 3 bull = 99,99% chance on 1, 0,01% chance on 0
3 cow + 4 bull = 100% chance on 1
2 cow + 5 bull = 100% chance on 1
1 cow + 6 bull = 100% chance on 1

[Dutchgamer1982]

sheep and goat, also have 15% chance on a young.
fold has 12 beds, most of any building.

-> this will be essentially the expended calculation for chicken coop/goose house

already said, to frustated to do that much calculations right now.
but consider :

chickens/goose :
1 female +7 male = 100% chance on 1
(but low chance on eggs, thats why you want the calculations for that)

sheep/goat
2 female + 7 male = 100% chance on 2
(which is fine for sheep, but for goats, little milk)

[atlas117]

Originally posted by Morri:

Did you make sure they have feed? Since a few patches ago they require feed to be able to reproduce.

Other than that it's just bad luck. You using one as a mount makes no difference.

All fine, they are well fed and pampered

[atlas117]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

FUUUU... I was buisy typing and it delited ALL of it.. an hour of work lost.
stupid steam and their screen refreshing...

well I aint going to do all the calculations AGAIN.

anyway : to get annimal offspring you must meet 3 condintions.
**the annimals must be fed
**there must be at least 1 free bed in their building
**there must be at least 1 of both genders in their building.

if you meet these 3 demands, at the start of each new season a diceroll happens whether you will get annimal offspring.

for pigs, chickens, geese
each female has a 15% chance to get offspring per season PER MALE

pigs only have 5 beds so :
1 female, 1 man = 15% chance to get 1 piglet, 85% 0
1 female, 2 man = 30% chance to get 1, 70% 0
2 female, 1 man = 2,25% chance to get 2, 25,5% chance to get 1, 72,25% to get 0
3 female, 1 man = 38,5875% chance to get 1, 61,4125 chance to get 0
2 female, 2 man = 51% chance to get 1, 49% chance to get 0
1 female, 3 man = 45% chance to get 1, 55% chance to get 0

geese and chickens have 10 beds.. so higher numbers are possible... I was buisy giving numbers for ALL options.. but than steam delited my data... not going to do it again right now.. maybe later.. but if you have 7 male + 1 female, you guaranteed get a chick each season (7x15=105%) but the number of eggs you will get will be rather lousy.

horses & donkeys have only 4 beds, but have a 20% chance per female so for horses it is :
1 female, 1 man = 20% chance to get 1, 80% to get 0
2 female, 1 man = 36% chance to get 1, 64% to get 0
1 female, 2 man = 40% chance to get 1, 60% to get 0

Thanks for that

[Homeschool Mom]

I know this is an old thread, but does anyone know if you have to have an employee working in the building as well? I feel like I have a lot of wasted employees standing around not collecting manure or eggs where I could be doing that once per season and use that labor elsewhere. If I don't need them for animal husbandry I think my peasants are about to get sentenced to some hard labor in the mines for all that complaining they've been doing. Bwaahaa...

[*Morri*]

Originally posted by Homeschool Mom:

I feel like I have a lot of wasted employees standing around not collecting manure or eggs where I could be doing that once per season and use that labor elsewhere.

The workers in the animal buildings don't interact with the visual manure on the ground or the eggs and feathers in the nests. Those are for the player only to collect. (They were added so that people without workers could still obtain manure and eggs.)

Your workers will produce manure and eggs (if you have set that as a task in the building) from thin air, like all the work buildings where they gather material.

[Dutchgamer1982]

ah this is a nudge to remind me I still had to redo my economic calculations I promised to redo last summer.. but did not finish due other matters taking my time away;)