Gender of the heir

[FuchsMulder]

Hi everyone,
can someone tell me if there is an option to choose the gender of the heir? Because in the Racimir story my heir was male and in the Oxbow story it is a girl. Is that a random outcome or is that fix?

Thanks in advance for helpful answers

[Ookapia]

There is no choice of gender. (But it's often asked, so we might get lucky in the future).

On the old map, the character and therefore his heir is always male.
In Oxbow, the gender of the heir is random. Some players save the game before the season change and reload it if the gender doesn't match their expectations.

[FuchsMulder]

Originally posted by Ookapia:

There is no choice of gender. (But it's often asked, so we might get lucky in the future).

On the old map, the character and therefore his heir is always male.
In Oxbow, the gender of the heir is random. Some players save the game before the season change and reload it if the gender doesn't match their expectations.

Thank you very much for your explanations. So i have to save the game before the season changes and reload as often as needed until i get an male heir in oxbow as well. :)

[*Morri*]

Originally posted by FuchsMulder:

So i have to save the game before the season changes and reload as often as needed until i get an male heir in oxbow as well. :)

That's indeed the trick if you want to make sure to get a specific gender in Oxbow.

[Rufert]

Originally posted by *Morri*:

Originally posted by FuchsMulder:

So i have to save the game before the season changes and reload as often as needed until i get an male heir in oxbow as well. :)

That's indeed the trick if you want to make sure to get a specific gender in Oxbow.

Which on its own is kind of bad but manageable.
But combine it with multiplayer and it gets upgraded to terrible.

[Ookapia]

That is true.

If they plan for it and know what they're up to, they could at least come to an arrangement so that they don't all get their kids in the same season.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Rufert:

Originally posted by *Morri*:

That's indeed the trick if you want to make sure to get a specific gender in Oxbow.

Which on its own is kind of bad but manageable.
But combine it with multiplayer and it gets upgraded to terrible.

Maybe the devs assumed people were mature enough to handle playing as either sex....

[Maehlice]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Originally posted by Rufert:

Which on its own is kind of bad but manageable.
But combine it with multiplayer and it gets upgraded to terrible.

Maybe the devs assumed people were mature enough to handle playing as either sex....

Maybe they didn't assume anything. It's really just a subset of a subset of a small fraction of people who actually care. So, would they even be on the radar? I mean, there are probably more people who want to play this on Linux/Proton than that.

[Rufert]

It's nice to have a choice. You have one when you make your character in the multiplayer map. It's just weird to get the option then, only to have it up to RNG later.

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by Maehlice:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Maybe the devs assumed people were mature enough to handle playing as either sex....

Maybe they didn't assume anything. It's really just a subset of a subset of a small fraction of people who actually care. So, would they even be on the radar? I mean, there are probably more people who want to play this on Linux/Proton than that.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make with this statement.

[FuchsMulder]

Originally posted by Ookapia:

There is no choice of gender. (But it's often asked, so we might get lucky in the future).

On the old map, the character and therefore his heir is always male.
In Oxbow, the gender of the heir is random. Some players save the game before the season change and reload it if the gender doesn't match their expectations.

Yay, it worked. My character got a son at the first try after saving the game and reload. Thank you again for the advice. :)

[Maehlice]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Originally posted by Maehlice:

Maybe they didn't assume anything. It's really just a subset of a subset of a small fraction of people who actually care. So, would they even be on the radar? I mean, there are probably more people who want to play this on Linux/Proton than that.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make with this statement.

When making anything, you can only consider so many possible reactions. When making something commercial (for profit), you cater to your intended audience and/or the majority of consumers. In this case, the group of people who truly care about the sex/gender/sexuality of the characters enough to boycott purchasing it is a very small subset of people. It is entirely possible the MD devs didn't "assume people were mature" -- they didn't assume anything at all because this tiny subset of players weren't even on the radar.

[Ookapia]

You're implying that there are very few people who care about gender and have a problem with being perceived as transgender or homosexual, i.e. changing their gender over the course of the game and marrying someone in the game who matches their actual gender.

Unfortunately, there really are a lot of these people, and some of them are so hostile towards LGBTIQ+ that they will use any topic to vilify this group.

[Morri]

In all honesty, they should have seen this coming. It's a bit weird to have a character creator where you can chose the gender, only to later be possibly shoehorned into another one.
I personally like the randomness, and I happily roleplay as either man or woman, but I can understand why this removes some of the fun for some people.
Imo this would have been low-hanging fruit to provide an easy setting in the customisation for heir gender (random, male, female).
As for co-op players, that might be a bit of a problem though if they both want a different heir gender but are giving birth in the same season.

[Rufert]

Yeah it's just awkward as is.

But as usual one can't inquire about the option without without either being lumped in with much more aggressive groups or in my case being called immature.

[Maehlice]

Originally posted by Ookapia:

You're implying that there are very few people who care about gender and have a problem with being perceived as transgender or homosexual, i.e. changing their gender over the course of the game and marrying someone in the game who matches their actual gender.

Unfortunately, there really are a lot of these people, and some of them are so hostile towards LGBTIQ+ that they will use any topic to vilify this group.

I'm not implying it; I'm saying it. Most people don't care at all, don't care enough to be actionable, or would rather it not even be a topic of discussion. Yes, there are extremely vocal and aggressive minorities on both sides of this topic, but most people still fall somewhere in the middle. (It very likely follows a normal distribution bell curve.)

What I was initially responding to was a comment about how "the devs assumed people were mature enough to handle playing as either sex...."

I think that's a (mostly) true statement. I disagree about it being a matter of "maturity", but I agree that most people can handle it, because most people fall into that large middle majority of "don't care enough to be actionable".

And because most people fall into that category, it's entirely plausible this topic was never up for discussion when character customization was enabled. No assumptions of maturity were made. No side was chosen. They simply built the character customization and moved on to the next line of the to-do list.