Pricing of animals in the game _seriously_ deviated from medieval reality, adjustment needed.

[macleodcorey]

As we know the prices of animals was nerfed. However now we see animal prices so nerfed that it significantly affects the immersion of the game and is simply too far removed from the reality of relative prices in medieval times.

So how much should an animal cost in in-game coins? Well, if we use a single egg as a reference point we can answer that question.

In medieval times two dozen eggs was 1d (or 1 pence). This means that 1 egg was 1/24th p. In the game we see an egg cost 15 coins. So we can say that 1 pence in medieval times is 360 game coins.

How much were animals in pence in ACTUAL medieval times (you can find references to this from research online and we have some good data). A chicken was 1/2d, A goose was 6d. A sheep was 17d. A pig was 24d (yes a pig should cost more than a sheep). A cow was 72d (and actually prices for cows rose to over 100d).

So what 'should' the approximate costs of farm animals be in coins in Medieval Dynasty?
Chicken 180 coins
Goose 2,000 coins
Sheep 6,000 coins
Pig 8,500 coins
Cow 25,000 coins

Also. When I sell an item to a vendor at another village it is reasonable that they do not pay me the full price, because they would need to then sell the item for a profit.

However, when I sell at item at MY village, including an animal, (my village is a village like every other village in the game and the price of buying an egg is the price of buying an egg) I should also be able to sell it at the same price as an item being sold at any other village. This is simply reasonable.

Because selling an animal in medieval times would be profitable, selling an animal in Medieval Dynasty should of course also be profitable. This would bring back the plausible option of 'breeding to sell animals for good profit as reflected in history'.

As it stands, the market for animals is broken and simply doesn't need to be.

[larrysteele]

Originally posted by macleodcorey:

Longbows were twice the price of swords in the 14th Century but that is a suggestion for another day.

Not that it changes anything, but for clarification, the game is said to take place in very early 11th century southern Poland.

[Not MrBallen]

Originally posted by larrysteele:

Originally posted by macleodcorey:

Longbows were twice the price of swords in the 14th Century but that is a suggestion for another day.

Not that it changes anything, but for clarification, the game is said to take place in very early 11th century southern Poland.

I dont want to get into a historical debate, as long bows are known to be from Welsh were they in Poland at this time frame? Also the cross bow was a china invention(used by the French in latter centuries) , were they in Poland at this time? I am just asking.

[macleodcorey]

Originally posted by Not MrBallen:

Originally posted by larrysteele:

Not that it changes anything, but for clarification, the game is said to take place in very early 11th century southern Poland.

I dont want to get into a historical debate, as long bows are known to be from Welsh were they in Poland at this time frame? Also the cross bow was a china invention(used by the French in latter centuries) , were they in Poland at this time? I am just asking.

AI concludes with the following answer about that question: In conclusion, while there is no definitive evidence confirming widespread use of crossbows specifically in Poland during the 11th century, it is likely that as military technology advanced across Europe, Polish forces would have begun incorporating such weapons into their arsenals towards the end of this century or shortly thereafter.

Probability that this answer is correct: 85%

[macleodcorey]

Originally posted by larrysteele:

Originally posted by macleodcorey:

Longbows were twice the price of swords in the 14th Century but that is a suggestion for another day.

Not that it changes anything, but for clarification, the game is said to take place in very early 11th century southern Poland.

Yes it does. The prices of livestock in Poland in the 11th Century? In summary, while precise figures are difficult to ascertain due to limited documentation from the era, it is estimated that the prices of livestock in 11th century Poland were approximately:

Cattle: 10 to 20 grzywna
Sheep: 2 to 5 grzywna
Pigs: 3 to 6 grzywna
Goats: 1 to 3 grzywna

These values reflect general trends rather than exact figures due to variability in local economies and conditions.

If you estimate that a cow is 1,000 times the price of an egg (from 13th Century data on prices in Poland) then if the egg is priced at 15 game coins then the cattle is around 15,000 game coins.

[macleodcorey]

For weapons in 11th Century Poland this is the best answer I can muster: Swords were likely among the most expensive items due to their craftsmanship and materials used. They could be valued at several cows* or a significant amount of silver.
Spears and axes, being simpler to produce, would have been more affordable but still represented a considerable investment for common soldiers.
Bows, depending on their quality and design, might have varied widely in price but were generally less expensive than swords.

*So maybe you could guess a sword being somewhere around 50,000 game coins?